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Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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post #378

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

Learn to read. “ Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement.”

Meanwhile, the mass surveillance is outsourced to Flock

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something doesn’t make sense here. His tweet claims he has exactly the same restrictions that Anthropic had.

I know the reaction to this, if you're a rational observer, is "OpenAI have cut corners or made concessions that Anthropic did not, that's the only thing that makes sense." However, if you live in the US and pay a passing attention to our idiotic politics, you know this is right out of the Trump playbook. It goes like this: * Make a negotiation personal * Emotionally lash out and kill the negotiation * Complete a wor…

You're missing an important part of the negotiation - Trump must benefit personally in some way. In this case, Greg Brockman has given by far the biggest single donation ($25m) to Trump's MAGA PAC in September last year.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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I'd prefer to see board (or executive) level signatories over lay employees -- the people who can enforce enterprise policy rather than just voice their opinions -- but this is encouraging to see nonetheless. I can't help but notice that Grok/X is not part of this initiative, though. I realize that frontier models are really coming from Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google, but it feels like someone is going to give in to t…

Or just reincorporate in Finland or something. If the US is going to be this hostile to business, time to gtfo.

"hostile to business".. Employees of a business playing moral philosophers, priests or policy influencers miss the entire point of business.

The employees themselves can definitely gtfo to Finland for the reason that they have an unrealistic perception of business and the world. The business itself has no obligation to pay attention to magical thinking.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes 100% sense. They said yes to the same thing.

Dario is being ruled out due to ideological standing Makes perfect sense

Yep.

Everyone is over thinking it.

There would have been a conversation between Hegseth and Trump that went something like:

This guy thinks he can tell us what we can and can’t do.

Get rid of him.

It’s that simple.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the bigger insanity here is the labeling of a supply chain risk. It prohibits DoD agencies and contractors from using Anthropic services. It'd be one thing if the DoD simply didn't use Anthropic. It's another when it actively attempts to isolate Anthropic for political reasons.

It means that all companies contracting with the government have to certify that they don't use Anthropic products at all . Not just in the products being offered to the government. This is a massive body slam. This means that Nvidia, every server vendor, IBM, AWS, Azure, Microsoft and everybody else has to certify that they don't do business directly or indirectly using Anthropic products.

Microsoft, Azure, AWS, Nvidia and IBM all have deals with other providers for AI. That itself doesn't turn the needle.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#448
post #130

Here's the sequence (so far) in reverse order - did I miss any important threads? Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47188697 - Feb 2026 (31 comments) I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47186677 - Feb 2026 (872 comments) President Trump bans Anthropic from use in governm…

Tech companies shouldn't be bullied into doing surveillance (eff.org) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47160226 (160 comments)

Added - thanks

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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It really feels like I am no longer impressed with Anthropic safety.

Do they have even a basic understanding of the different regimes of safety and what allegiance means to ones own state?

It would be fine to say they are opting out of all forms of protection against adversaries.

But it feels like just more insane naive tech bro stuff.

As someone outside the tech bro bubble in fintech in London, can somebody explain this in a way that doesn't indicate these are sort of kids in a playground who think there is no such thing as the wolf?

Again, opting out and specializing in tech that you are going to provide to your enemies AND friends alike is fine. That is a good specialization. But this is not what I hear. I hear protest songs not deep thinking of thousand year mind set.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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post #209

I'd prefer to see board (or executive) level signatories over lay employees -- the people who can enforce enterprise policy rather than just voice their opinions -- but this is encouraging to see nonetheless. I can't help but notice that Grok/X is not part of this initiative, though. I realize that frontier models are really coming from Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google, but it feels like someone is going to give in to t…

Is it really incredible? Only if you're naive. I guess most here are. Governments are paranoid, particularly about losing control and influence over its subjects. This is expected behaviour.

Democratic governments care about this to a degree but only autocratic ones get paranoid.
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