I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

> that I just have "work email verified" and that there is a Persona thing I was not even aware of

Good to know that work email verification doesn't involve Persona.

That seems like a reasonable middle ground. Work email is a much lighter ask than handing over government ID and biometrics.

Curious, does your verification status persist after you remove the work email (e.g., if you leave that employer)?

>why does the US create so much stuff that Europe doesn't?

because the "stuff" in question is social networks who live, as the name suggests, off network effects. To have a European LinkedIn would require everyone in Europe to switch at the same time. Which can be trivially arranged, we just would need the courage to ban LinkedIn and every other American social media company. We'd have a clone up and running in a month. You only need to look to China who did exactly this.

>Notice how China managed to break free from US tech dominance, no matter how difficult it was

They did this because in the Chinese narrative Americans are a bunch of hegemonic brutes and self sufficiency was a matter of survival. Europeans don't use LinkedIn because they're victimized, they use American products because there was a belief that the United States is a civilized country whose companies and government can be relied on.

That Americans of all people now adopt the rhetoric of the Chinese about themselves and Europe, which has some terrifying and unflattering implications about their own self image should make people think about what they're saying. Europe didn't go for a different route because of victim-hood, but because the rule of law and the so-called Western values do still mean something on the old continent.

If Americans now openly say, Europe you losers you should have treated us the way the Communist party told you to, fair enough but mind you that's how people talk who are at the end of their own civilization, I'm German I know the attitude very well.

KYC data is the most dangerous data that can leak right now. If your CC leaks, you will know almost immediately and can revoke it and generally will get your money back. Password leaks can be neutered with 2FA. Medical data leak can perhaps be used in a complex extortion, but generally for most people this data is worthless.

KYC data on the other hand allows third party criminals who have bought your KYC on the black market to perform money laundering in your name (by opening bank accounts) and taking debt in your name. Generally you won't even know this is happening until it's too late and debt collectors come. And it's not like you can revoke your biometrics/liveness check/selfie and who knows if revoking your passport/id card would actually work.

IMO it's much better if a dedicated KYC processor, like Persona, with actual security team/mindset, handles this rather than random website inside their zendesk instance. But there still needs to be extremely strict regulation surrounding this data.

Also while CC data will be getting less dangerous over time due to AI fraud detection and mandated 3DS, KYC data will IMO be getting more dangerous over time because more fintech/govtech will rely on it.

I suddenly had my account locked down unless I provide my government ID, just like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44435997.

Never did LinkedIn state it was Persona carrying out the validation, and in the email they stated the data would be promptly deleted. I'm now learning this is not true; companies removed from LinkedIn store my data for however long they want.

I feel this is solid grounds for a lawsuit, particularly in states such as California.