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Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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How is Anthropic, OpenAI and xAi going to compete against the likes of Google that can spend $200 billion a year? It’s an impossible war and all these investors are throwing their money into a bottomless insatiable pit of money. Until the funding stops for one reason or another and then everyone loses all their money at once like a star that collapses into a black hole singularity in a femtosecond.

Anthropic's product, in my experience, is leaps and bounds over the competition.

I don't know how profitable any of these companies can be, but if Anthropic fails as a company, they will be purchased for sure. I'm not saying that's good, but I can't see someone just leaving something like Claude to die away.

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Let’s say I wanted to buy 100 million+ in anthropic stock. Let’s say it’s impossible to get anyone from anthropic with that kind of stock on the phone. Who should one contact to try to buy that stock? Don’t tell me the companies that invested and are listed in this website. Who else, and specifically, who else who’s willing to talk to a peon?

Someone with a $100M is not a peon.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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Anthropic has one of the best moats of any business that's been created in the last 50 years. Numerous companies have tried and failed competing with SoTA foundational models. If Anthropic had no moat, Apple and Meta wouldn't be paying them billions for coding asistance. Meta, Amazon, Apple, and Nvidia would all have SoTA competitors to Claude. They all tried and have not produced a competitor. Instead you have three…

The open models are not far behind. Is it really a "moat" when it's so short lived and you need a brand new moat after six months? That's just ordinary competition.

They are far behind. Go check re-swe bench to see the overfitting measured

Or just try to use them. They don’t generalize as well.

They are benchmaxxed.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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Theoretically Apple can spend just as much. What are the outcomes though? All those giants have their own business that are established and profitable. It’s the new kids in the block that will make the difference. You know those lists on twitter about how many companies US has in top 10 and are presented as a win? Those are actually lists of capital concentrations blocking innovation. It looks like US is winning but…

Sometimes I worry about the incentives for innovation in the US. Step 1, find something to innovate on, sell the promise of it to investors. Step 2, build a prototype or worst case, build it for real and start generating income from your truly innovate and unique product. Step 3, get acquired by a large company and then shut down because your product competed with theirs. End result, general public possibly benefited…

I'm fairly convinced that the U.S. has chosen the worst models possible to innovate.

Giant corporations control everything, even government laws, regulations, and policies. They will buy up any competition, patent themselves toward a moat, squash competition they don't want to buy, etc.

Venture captialism doesn't care about true value or some actual addition to society. It's a giant grift just to make more money from money. They chase every trend and hype train ad nauseum. It was self-driving cars, then cryptocurrencies/blockchain, and now gen AI. The vast majority of these companies have no value to society or long-term innovation.

The government invests in areas, but a huge amount of it goes to the black hole of defense contractors. And academic institutions in the U.S. are incredibly wasteful with money and spend all their time trying to fundraise money at the same time.

Just the entire system is inefficient and effectively broken.

For example, YC announced calls for climate tech a few years ago: https://www.ycombinator.com/blog/rfs-climatetech. Where did that go? I looked up YC companies in the climate space (https://www.ycombinator.com/companies?batch=Summer%202026&ba...), and there's only 22 companies out of the several thousand YC companies. So where's the value? Most of the companies aren't hiring and just seem like vaporware. And if you look at the leadership, almost all of them are serial VC/startup people and not actual innovators, experts, or professionals.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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I haven't used it to replace workers though, only to replace Google search. My company is pushing copilot but it's only $16/user/mo. Hardly lucrative and no moat.

Start Claude Code in a big repo, give it a bug report and ask it to come up with a fix, and watch it do hours of work in minutes. It doesn't have 100% success rate, but its ability to navigate code bases and understand how different parts play together has become seriously impressive

I don't know, Opus 4.6 cannot solve a synchronization issue in my game which is not that big. It comes with tons of wrong analysis and implementations that make it worse.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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But what does a fraudulent company have to do with a company that’s generating a run rate of $14b?

I mean Amodei is basically slightly higher than a fraudster.

Oh please, less hyperbole.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

#447

How is this not a red flag? It’s a series G and they are still begging for money to burn. When do they convert their balance sheet to profit? Is it after a series AAF when they are worth more than Apple or nvidia?

Have you seen their revenue growth?

if the unit economics are broken (strong competition from other proprietary model providers + open weight models; LLM token race to the bottom) it's not clear how high revenue growth translates to high profits. These companies are valued like monopolists, but the competitive dynamics make them more akin to tomato sauce makers. I understand that the technology is pretty amazing and can lead to significant productivity gains, but from a business perspective, the question is how much of that value Antrophic and others can capture over time.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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So is Gemini tbh. It's the only agent I've used that gets itself stuck in ridiculous loops repeating "ok. I'm done. I'm ready to commit the changes. There are no bugs. I'm done." Google somehow manages to fumble the easiest layups. I think Anthropic et al have a real chance here.

Google's product management and discipline are absolute horsesh*t. But they have a moat and its extreme technical competence. They own their infra from the hardware (custom ASICs, their own data centers, global intranet, etc.) all the way up to the models and product platforms to deploy it in. To the extent that making LLMs work to solve real world problems is a technical problem, landing Gemini is absolutely in Goog…

Just imagine how things change when Google realizes they can leverage their technical competenence to have Gemini build competent product management (or at least something that passes as comparatively competent since their bar is so low).

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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I mean Amodei is basically slightly higher than a fraudster.

Oh please, less hyperbole.

The guy was hawking the doubling of human lifespan at some elderly potential investors... I really wonder why he decided to raise that point in that particular situation? Kind of going straight to our deepest fears.

Re: Anthropic raises $30B in Series G funding at $380B post-money valuation

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it's still the case, but there are never 1,000 investors, there's a couple dozen VC firms, SPVs, and individuals if you're smart. I don't think this is an SEC problem, they are fully aware that people subject to their jurisdiction can jump through many hoops to circumvent them. This shows consent on the investor's part well enough, and capital formation regulations do not burden the investor at all, they are only con…

tbh that 1000 investors limit sounds like it was trying to address a similar problem? i.e. if a company is big enough it is important to reel it in a bit or else shenanigans happen. And just like all rules, the people at the top can easily work around it.

sort of... the 1000 investor limit was actually doubling the prior limit

the friction that the whole industry and the SEC pushes and pulls on is that nobody wants to go public because it's needlessly expensive to be a public company, companies would otherwise go public

basically, one publicly traded company does something egregiously bad, the SEC mandates a new expensive disclosure that requires a completely new operating style, less companies go public

the SEC's mission statement is a dual mandate: provide for fairer securities markets (via transparency mandates), and the second one is facilitate capital formation

so when the goal of providing for fairer markets is hampering people raising and accessing capital at all, then they help on that front

in this case, as people avoided going public, they would run into the number of investor limits and do suboptimal things because they couldn't raise more capital. so the limit went up to what it is

now, with that foundation in mind, your main point isn't close to what's happening "if a company is big enough it is important to reel it in a bit or else shenanigans happen", the SEC doesn't "reel in big companies". it mandates transparency in public companies, number of investors in private companies, and regulates details of certain transactions, that's it. you can be any size. they don't judge the merit of an investment (outside of some ETFs, since they also regulate fund advisors and ETFs just happen to be publicly traded funds), the SEC's focus is that there's enough information for an investor to judge the merit of a publicly traded investment

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