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A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by limagnolia »

angiolillo wrote: post #425
rezonant wrote: post #380

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> In the morning I typically check my work calendar, my personal calendar, the shared family calendar, and the kids' various school calendars. It would be convenient to have these aggregated. (Copying events or sending new events to all of the calendars works well until I forget and one slips through the cracks...) But... calendar apps already let you aggregate your calendars into a single view. Even if you have them…

> you can easily share a read-only version of, say, your work calendar with your personal account so that you can have them combined in the morning. If only it was that easy! I'm not allowed to share content to or from my work calendar for security reasons. The school and camp calendars are a mix of PDFs and hand-written websites -- a neighbor wrote a scraper to extract the information from a few of them into a calda…

I think this problem is one that AI could actually help with- simply snap a photo of my school calendar and ask the ai to add the important items to my personal calendar.

But I don't need the AI to do this everyday, just when i get a new calendar.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by ryukoposting »

clickety_clack wrote: post #347
ryukoposting wrote: post #345

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> Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? Yeah, the sane solution here is much simpler. Put a magnet whiteboard. When you put something into the fridge, add it to the whiteboard. When you take something out, you erase that item from the whiteboard.

Isn’t the sane solution to just generally have an idea what’s in there, and take a look if you’re not sure?

Trust me, if "just remember it" worked for me, many things about my life would be different. Not just the whiteboard on the fridge.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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lukeschlather wrote: post #438
what wrote: post #428

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You can only track what containers are in the fridge, not how much is left or if it’s expired. “Automated” pantry or fridge tracking is just not possible and requires way more effort than just writing “mustard” on the shopping list when you notice you’re low.

If you had a scale with an image recognition camera and you put everything on the scale before and after removing it from the fridge, it would probably work pretty well? I've been pondering setting something like that up, it would also be really helpful for keeping track of how much and of what I'm actually putting into the food I made, if I weigh everything before and after, I can just collect the amounts after the…

Again, you still have to put in way more work. You have to somehow know the weight of the container, otherwise it will never register as empty. Or you have to know the volume and the density of its contents (or worse, think about a jar of olives or pickles, how would a weight tell you it’s empty with the brine in there?). You still don’t know the expiry date. There’s no chance of automatically tracking this stuff.

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consumer451 wrote: post #402
fwip wrote: post #382

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Don't worry, you're not an idiot. This is not gonna pan out.

Just like when I discounted cryptocurrency in 2012, yet again I may be overthinking things. That is the lesson that I would like to share on this platform: If you have an idea, any idea, just do it. Do it now. Build now. It turns out that there are a lot of morons. Role the dice, you are likely not one of the bag holders, as one of the readers of this comment. I wish I had been younger when I had realized this circle…

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Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by goosejuice »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #263
louiereederson wrote: post #238

- Why do you need a reminder to buy gloves when you are holding them? - Why do you need price trackers for airbnb? It is not a superliquid market with daily price swings. - Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? - Can you not prepare for the next day by opening your calendar? - If you have reminders for everything (respond…

Yeah, a lot of these AI "uses" feel like solutions looking for a problem. It's the equivalent of me having to press a button on the steering wheel of my Tesla and say "Open Glovebox" and wait 1-2 seconds for the glove box to open (the wonders of technology!) instead of just reaching over and pressing a button to open the glovebox instantly (a button that Tesla removed because "voice-operated controls are cool!"). Or…

I agree with the sentiment about the post. I'm not a person who fills my life with busy though.

I quite like tactile buttons. That said, I've never been annoyed by my model 3s glove box, I use the pin. I have both stalks but the lack of other buttons seems just fine. I thought they did a pretty damn good job with the UX of the car beyond the auto wipers.

How often does one go in the glove box? It's so small and he center console is very spacious and more accessible. It's two quick taps on the screen for a passenger. If you wish to lock your glove box, many do, the solution is much better than a key.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by insane_dreamer »

goosejuice wrote: post #445
insane_dreamer wrote: post #263

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Yeah, a lot of these AI "uses" feel like solutions looking for a problem. It's the equivalent of me having to press a button on the steering wheel of my Tesla and say "Open Glovebox" and wait 1-2 seconds for the glove box to open (the wonders of technology!) instead of just reaching over and pressing a button to open the glovebox instantly (a button that Tesla removed because "voice-operated controls are cool!"). Or…

I agree with the sentiment about the post. I'm not a person who fills my life with busy though. I quite like tactile buttons. That said, I've never been annoyed by my model 3s glove box, I use the pin. I have both stalks but the lack of other buttons seems just fine. I thought they did a pretty damn good job with the UX of the car beyond the auto wipers. How often does one go in the glove box? It's so small and he ce…

fair points; we rarely use the glovebox because the central console is not only more accessible but also doesn't require fiddling with the touch screen to open ;)

I do agree that the UX is pretty good overall, the glovebox annoyed me (until we just stopped using it) and also the defogger (which we need all the time in the winter her) which took several taps on the screen until I discovered that I could customize the shortcut buttons at the bottom of the screen

Some automated things they definitely got right: auto-engage the emergency break while in park; auto-park when opening the door; auto-lock when leaving the car; auto-start the climate control when entering the car; auto-adjust the seat position based on driver detection.

But some things need work: The algorithm for the windshield wipers definitely needs some calibration -- the wipers come on at random times when there as no rain or water splashes; the lane departure "I'm taking control because you're going to crash" is way too sensitive and beeping at random moments; the collision sensor is also much too sensitive (yes I see the car and I'm already slowing down) (but I have to admit that I'd rather it err on the side of being too sensitive than not enough)

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by Larrikin »

hahajk wrote: post #385
angiolillo wrote: post #372

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> Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? I agree that removing items and taking pictures takes more effort than it saves, but I would use a simpler solution if one existed because it turns out I cannot remember what we have. When my partner goes to the store I get periodic text messages from them asking how much X we have…

We have forgotten the simple, reliable solutions of the past - a grocery list on the fridge, a weekly planner, a weekly plan itself rather than constant coordination. Cell phones and easy communication led us here.

Ignoring the fact that OP does not know about existing solutions like Grocy where people do find value in the currently tedious setup of adding products and tracking their kitchens inventory, and just zeroing in on your first point. The paper grocery list is terrible

If you cook at all a solution like Mealie becomes your cookbook. Its trivial to create grocery list for when you take the time to plan out your meals for the day, week, or month. If you are not shopping by yourself, everyone on the app can just pick up things in the grocery store independently. Its an actual time saver

Mealie exposes an API so you could theoretically expose it to another solution like Home Assistant and have your grocery list sync with your errands list. Suddenly you have the ability so that anyone using Home Assistant could get an alert when they are nearby the grocery store or Costco to pick up things on this combined list. Maybe your partner is walking by a store you've created a zone for, with items on your master list, gets an alert, and they can mark off some things that they picked up and it syncs back to where the items were originally added. Your inventory is then updated based on marked off items.

Now imagine if you did not have to come up with the bespoke master list for all the stores you go to and it can determine when to send that alert. You can also just snap a picture of your receipt or shopping cart and it is all figured out for you.

But you could just use piece of paper with the magnet on the fridge.

Theres a lot of manual process that can be eliminated for things people already find convenient enough to do manually. Local models can easily handle much of this already.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Post by p0w3n3d »

Elton went in second, and suddenly shuddered. The strangulating gag reflex made his body shake. The deceased was lying on the floor with a weird grimace on his face. Pills were lying around, spilling out of open boxes. There was something in his hand. Unlocked phone. He put on his gloves, and bent down to check it. He suspected the subject might have been calling for help. The phone was unlocked but there were no contact selected. The only visible text was:

"Bot please tell which medication should I take in the morning"

And the following

"Your token limit was exceeded... Please wait till 5pm"

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