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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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You are mistaken. Item #1 is "images of children of a pornographic nature". Wheras "CSAM isn’t pornography—it’s evidence of criminal exploitation of kids." https://rainn.org/get-informed/get-the-facts-about-sexual-vi...

A distinction without a difference. Even if some kid makes a video of themselves jerking off for their own personal enjoyment, unprompted by anyone else, if someone else gains access to that (eg a technician at a store or an unprincipled guardian) and makes a copy for themselves they're criminally exploiting the kid by doing so.

Seems like a pretty big difference. It's got to be worse to actually do something to somone in real life than not do that.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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I remember encountering questionable hentai material (by accident) back in the Twitter days. But back then twitter was a leftist darling

Define leftist for back in the twitter days? I used twitter early in release. Don’t recall it being a faction specific platform.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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What do they hope to find, specifically ? Who knows, but maybe the prosecutors have a better awareness of specifics than us HN commenters who have not been involved in the investigation. What may they find, hypothetically? Who knows, but maybe an internal email saying, for instance, 'Management says keep the nude photo functionality, just hide it behind a feature flag' , or maybe 'Great idea to keep a backup of the i…

Or “regulators don't understand the technology; short of turning it off entirely, there's nothing we can do to prevent it entirely, and the costs involved in attempting to reduce it are much greater than the likely fine, especially given that we're likely to receive such a fine anyway.”

Wouldn't surprise me, but they would have to be very incompetent to say that outside of attorney-client privledge convo.

Otoh it is musk.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Trump kidnapped Maduro to show the latter his place, but then the US is neither China nor Western Europe so that does not count.

Arrested and the vast majority of Venezuela love that it happened. https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/venezuela-survey-trump-ma...

According to USA sources, USA actions are universally approved.

Color me surprised.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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> Prosecutors say they are now investigating whether X has broken the law across multiple areas. This step could come before a police raid. This looks like plain political pressure. No lives were saved, and no crime was prevented by harassing local workers.

> This looks like plain political pressure. No lives were saved, and no crime was prevented by harassing local workers. The company made and released a tool with seemingly no guard-rails, which was used en masse to generate deepfakes and child pornography.

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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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> Prosecutors say they are now investigating whether X has broken the law across multiple areas. This step could come before a police raid. This looks like plain political pressure. No lives were saved, and no crime was prevented by harassing local workers.

> This looks like plain political pressure. No lives were saved, and no crime was prevented by harassing local workers. The company made and released a tool with seemingly no guard-rails, which was used en masse to generate deepfakes and child pornography.

Internet routers, network cards, the computers, OS and various application software have no guardrails and is used for all the nefarious things. Why those companies aren't raided?

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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A distinction without a difference. Even if some kid makes a video of themselves jerking off for their own personal enjoyment, unprompted by anyone else, if someone else gains access to that (eg a technician at a store or an unprincipled guardian) and makes a copy for themselves they're criminally exploiting the kid by doing so.

Seems like a pretty big difference. It's got to be worse to actually do something to somone in real life than not do that .

Not really, otherwise perpetrators will just "I was just looking at it, I didn't do anything as bad as creating it". Their act is still illegal.

There was a cartoon picture I remember seeing around 15+ years ago of Bart Simpson performing a sex act. In some jurisdictions (such as Australia), this falls under the legal definition.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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post #447

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> This looks like plain political pressure. No lives were saved, and no crime was prevented by harassing local workers. The company made and released a tool with seemingly no guard-rails, which was used en masse to generate deepfakes and child pornography.

Internet routers, network cards, the computers, OS and various application software have no guardrails and is used for all the nefarious things. Why those companies aren't raided?

Don't forget polaroid in that.
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