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BirdyChat becomes first European chat app that is interoperable with WhatsApp

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Re: BirdyChat becomes first European chat app that is interoperable with WhatsApp

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That's all automated bullshit that almost everyone would opt out of if given the chance. Nobody is using that by choice.

But you see, in other countries automated bullshit often talks to you over WhatsApp or Telegram instead.

Sure, but when I said that "SMS isn't widespread in the US, iMessage is," I meant that iMessage is what people use to message each other.

Re: BirdyChat becomes first European chat app that is interoperable with WhatsApp

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Data BirdyChat collects: > Messages, attachments and other materials that you send through BirdyChat to your contacts; No thanks

How do you think they would offer a messaging service if they didn't store the messages and attachments? The content has to live somewhere.

I don't know, ask iMessage, Google messages, and, ironically, whatsapp.

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Man, this is just a message app. It's trivial. The law must mandate it to work. It's not a technical problem. It's a political one

> Man, this is just a message app. It's trivial. The law must mandate it to work. I don't know if you know this, but the EU cannot force a company to obey EU laws outside of the EU.

Yes, it can. And it has done so before.

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I'd like to take the opportunity to mention a tiny very useful app that allows opening a WhatsApp chat directly with any number, without having to register it first as a contact. Great for vacations or similar situations where a quick one-time chat is needed with somebody: * https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trianguloy... * Webapp: https://trianguloy.github.io/OpenInWhatsapp_Web/ I'm just grateful for…

You can just paste the number into the "start new chat" search input and start a chat from there. You don't need any of this.

:-O

I didn't even suspected this was an option! I won't deny that I'm a bit distracted, but the UI discovery itself is also very poor.

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EU. I don't think it is any better at the national level however.

The EU is not a government. It's a loose economic confederation. And national European governments vary wildly in their positions on this.

It isn't an "economic confederation". It has a parliament, an executive, a judiciary, and a civil service. I would read the wiki page on the European Union.

Re: BirdyChat becomes first European chat app that is interoperable with WhatsApp

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I thought the stupid name was enough to kill it tbh. I'm not telling anyone they can call me on "birdychat" lmao.

While I also don't think Birdychat is a good name, you could also argue that "Whatsapp" is a weird name for an app billions of people use.

WhatsApp is a bizarre name, and I think that contributes to it occupying a "lower rent" space than the others (the goofy chat background also helps). But I think most people ultimately gloss over the joke and it just becomes kind of abstract.

With BirdyChat though, it feels like you'll be confronted by its silliness in perpetuity.

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There's one. It's Signal. I keep telling people to use it and they keep not, because people are less likely to do things if they've been told they should do them.

Signal is so much worse than WhatsApp from a UX perspective. Backup sync forces you to allow background permissions (WhatsApp doesn't), you have to set and get nagged to enter a PIN every few weeks (WhatsApp doesn't), there's no transcription for audio messages (WhatsApp has that for some languages), the desktop app loses its connection if you don't open it ever few weeks (WhatsApp works fine), etc. If you want peopl…

Yes. Let's switch to an app with Russian connections that has actively refused to implement E2EE for over a decade now.

Re: BirdyChat becomes first European chat app that is interoperable with WhatsApp

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> Man, this is just a message app. It's trivial. The law must mandate it to work. I don't know if you know this, but the EU cannot force a company to obey EU laws outside of the EU.

Yes, it can. And it has done so before.

Care to provide a link where the EU can tell a US company how to do business in Brazil (random country)?

Re: BirdyChat becomes first European chat app that is interoperable with WhatsApp

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Shouldnt be hard to convince folks. Everyone i know hates facebook / meta and is just waiting for an agreed upon alternative.

I have lately been telling people whatsapp is from facebook (meta means nothing to them) and now they are looking for alternatives. Unfortunately, there isn't really much european/eu (never heard of birdychat though). It does show though it is not hard to get some people to switch; they have groups on whatsapp and use it for nothing else; these are people they chat with often so they only need to switch those and the…

> Unfortunately, there isn't really much european/e

What about Deltachat/Arcanechat?

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