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I think the EU should pile in as well. It's basically an oven-ready independent mobile OS.
Europe is hostile towards Graphene users.
And with Europe you mean a single country, Spain?
Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android
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Re: Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android
#442Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. Apple has higher consumer trust. Apple has better app selection (for most people). Apple has been increasingly implementing the core features that differentiate Android devices, like USB-C and RCS. Every Android user lost to the increasing iOS market share is another customer Google has to pay exorbitant fees t…
For context, I'm a long-time iPhone user, who switched to a Pixel 8a about 18 months ago. > Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. I can't say I noticed a difference in quality when switching. Maybe some people can, but for me it was just a different, but still well-made phone. > Apple has higher consumer trust. I can't speak for consumers in general, but this is certainly no longer the case for me. I also u…
Personally I feel that their emphasis on privacy by design was a very winning marketing strategy. Not sure if it played with the general pop.
Re: Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android
#443Google's long term strategy with Android is baffling to me. Apple has had better mobile hardware for years. Apple has higher consumer trust. Apple has better app selection (for most people). Apple has been increasingly implementing the core features that differentiate Android devices, like USB-C and RCS. Every Android user lost to the increasing iOS market share is another customer Google has to pay exorbitant fees t…
I don't see any iOS advantage with the apps anymore. That was maybe true in the very beginning, during the gold rush time of the app store. But not since then. In which category are there better iOS apps? Browsers? No, strictly worse. Youtube app? No, worse. Texting? Worse or equal (Whatsapp). Podcast client? I assume worse, since there is no Antenna Pod. Social media apps? The iOS variants of those apps are afaik in…
> In which category are there better iOS apps?
Audio, and it's not even close. On iPadOS you get full-fledged DAWs like Cubasis and Logic.
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sorry this is not correct. (do you consistently use both?) iOS apps are consistently better, because people prefer using swift
As an Android power user (I’ve ran Lineage, Graphene, rooted with Magisk and passed safetynet) that’s moved to IOS this last month. My subjective opinion: app quality is the same.
It very much depends. These days most apps are developed so that they’re equally trash on both.
The apps that are more specialized to reach OS tend to prioritize iOS because if you look at app revenue, iOS users wildly outspend Android users. At least this was true when i was doing mobile shit a couple years ago
That doesn’t mean the android app sucks, but it’s usually given lower priority. New features and updates will usually hit iOS version sooner and things like that
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This is untrue. Apple was fighting EU the entire time trying to avoid a switch to USB-C on iPhones. EU representatives were publicly critical of Apple, eventually Apple was forced to give in.
I realize a conspiracy narrative gets more clicks but … you know Apple started the development of USB-C and shipped some of the first devices in 2015, right? People whined about the MacBooks requiring new hubs, etc. for a couple of years and got over it. The same thing happened with the iPad in 2018, AirPods, etc. When they introduced Lightning in 2012, they made a commitment to all of the third-party hardware develo…
But why would Apple, the company that famously hates backwards compatibility, make things easier for third-party accessory manufacturers, instead of making things easier for users bought into the ecosystem who had USB-C on their iPads and Macs?
Oh right, because they collected license fees and royalties for Lightning, reportedly $4 per cable. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22209924
Re: Google confirms 'high-friction' sideloading flow is coming to Android
#446Is the solution for sideloading to also have the same APK in the Play Store? That way, Google would have received the AAB and generated a signed APK that is used from the Play Store and also offered via sideloading.
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Google core business is ads. It is not the same.
Apple's core business is trapping users into their walled garden so they can rent seek. Whichever one you think is worse is really just a reflection of your own personal values. I value computing freedom above all.
> I value computing freedom above all.
So perhaps you should consider switching to GNU/Linux phones.
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> Social media apps? The iOS variants of those apps are afaik in no way better. What else is there, where is the advantage? This is incorrect. The IOS versions of social media apps extract way less data from the device than on android, and is thus more privacy friendly. Sure the best way would be for people not to use them, but if you "have" to, then it's better to use those on IOS.
>This is incorrect. The IOS versions of social media apps extract way less data from the device than on android, and is thus more privacy friendly. Source?
Here’s one example:
> Meta devised an ingenious system (“localhost tracking”) that bypassed Android’s sandbox protections to identify you while browsing on your mobile phone — even if you used a VPN, the browser’s incognito mode, and refused or deleted cookies in every session.
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I switched from Android to iPhone last year, and this just isn’t true. There’s so many tiny issues with android apps that just don’t exist on iPhone, because the android apps have to work on all these different devices. You don’t even have to look for the kinds of apps you’re talking about because things like Safari and Apple Podcasts work really well. I know people have a lot of complaints, but things on the iPhone…
> I know people have a lot of complaints, but things on the iPhone really do “just work”. Recently on HN: https://www.bugsappleloves.com/
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#450Earlier quoted context omitted.
>This is incorrect. The IOS versions of social media apps extract way less data from the device than on android, and is thus more privacy friendly. Source?
Here’s one example: > Meta devised an ingenious system (“localhost tracking”) that bypassed Android’s sandbox protections to identify you while browsing on your mobile phone — even if you used a VPN, the browser’s incognito mode, and refused or deleted cookies in every session. — https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44235467
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