Porsche sold more electrified cars in Europe in 2025 than pure gas-powered cars

Post by fooker » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 12:24 PM UTC

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I think we are going to be driving hybrids in large numbers for several decades until there's a new battery technology that triples energy density over the state of the art now. It can be invented sooner of course, technology prediction never really works.

Apart from Toyotas, hybrids are kind of unpopular precisely because they're a compromise. Not many people who do make the switch to EV go back. Additional tipping points will come when cities start banning combustion engines on emissions grounds. Then gas stations start closing. After a while you get the reverse condition to EV range anxiety: having to drive further and further out of your way to fill up. Maybe you g…

Post by vultour » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 12:28 PM UTC

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> What kind of stuff is missing? I'm in the market for buying a new car, either EV or hybrid. Currently have a Audi, been looking at various BYD models, particularly the new Touring one. One important feature, that I didn't know I needed before I tried it, was in-seat AC, where the air from the AC hits the back and bottom, instead of just your arms and face. Living in a warm country, and spending most of the time in…

I think this is one place where European automakers are going to have to adapt or die out. Even if they can get the motors, batteries, and charging systems to a competitive level, Chinese manufacturers include most """luxury""" features by default. European manufacturers go the other way, including the hardware but locking the entire thing behind microtransactions or "upgrades". They're going to need to cover the los…

Post by jansper39 » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 12:34 PM UTC

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no OP, but as someone who comes from a family where German cars were king for several reasons, who have all become disillusioned and now buy Asian cars, where the reason is simple. American style corporate greed infested German auto-manufactures and it shows at every level. It is most obvious with things like subscription services for basic function, like acceleration or the seat heaters you already paid for, but it…

I haven't bought German ever, but everything I hear seems pretty negative. Some of the recent models have plastic timing chain guides and have turned the engine around so that the timing chains are in the back. The only innocent explanation is that the car is only meant to last 10 years at most, so saving the money on plastic instead of metal and screwing whoever owns the car when the timing chains need to be redone…

Post by mlrtime » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 12:37 PM UTC

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> Practicality beats enthusiasm for 95% of car use. About two years ago I rented an electric car for a few days. I felt like I wasted a ton of time finding a charging station, jumping through phone app hoops to get the charging process started, and then waiting for the car to charge. I've stayed away from electric rentals since, even though they're often cheaper.

Comparing renting a new type of car when you have to figure everything out for 2 days then return it, to owning a car, where you also have to figure everything out, but only for the first days, not the 600 days afterwards, is not really comparable. Also, when you own a car you charge it at home and work, so you don't really wait for the car to charge very often. And the next time you rent a car, it will be a bit simp…

Post by Esophagus4 » Tue, Jan 20, 2026, 12:39 PM UTC

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> I never understood the big push for full EVs over hybrid. Being able to shed the ICE bits from the car's powertrain eliminates multiple entire classes of maintenance burden. With hybrid and EREV you get the problems of both types of powerplant and drivetrain, and even though ICE has evolved to be fairly reliable, it's still a very complicated assembly and basic wear-and-tear still is still a challenge. There will p…

> Being able to shed the ICE bits from the car's powertrain eliminates multiple entire classes of maintenance burden. I don't know but is this a uniquely US (and/or a few other such countries) thing, because of the high volume of daily driving? Here in India we send our (ICE) car in for a service somthing like once or twice a year? And that too is mostly because "the engine sounds a bit off", not "the car isn't start…