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Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by butterisgood »

simjnd wrote: post #127
jasongill wrote: post #9

It's $12.99/mo or $129/yr for a subscription that includes Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Pixelmator Pro, Motion, Compressor, MainStage, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers Educational discount with verification required drops the price to $2.99/mo / $29.99/yr. The regular-price subscription includes family sharing, education price does not. One-time purchase versions remain available: Final Cut Pro ($299.99), Logic Pro ($199.99)…

But Keynote, Pages and Numbers are already free

Hopefully staying as such. I like Numbers, but I suspect I could totally replace my use of it with Emacs org-mode.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by jwr »

movedx wrote: post #352
jwr wrote: post #276

After Apple suddenly discontinued Aperture, which left users like me with huge complex photo archives hanging, I will never trust any professional software tool from Apple again. It is a disaster that I still haven't fully recovered from. I've learned my lesson — all my archives will now be maintained by me, in file structures, with metadata in text files.

Please don’t take this as me saying you were wrong to ever trust Apple, however the best way to organise any data is usually just files on a disk. That’s becoming a recurring theme for me and even some of my corporate clients now. Confluence, for example, is out the window for secure documentation around sensitive environments and Word Docs in One Drive are back in. It’s surprisingly refreshing and gets the job done…

It's all true, but if you think organizing photo archives is easy, boy have I got news for you.

Metadata, versions, version groupings, projects, albums, there is lots of structure that most people don't realize exists.

Think every picture has an EXIF date and that's the date when it was taken? Think again. Scanning date is not the same as picture date.

Actually, even if you think of a date, you probably imagine the usual ISO8601 2026-01-14T17:37:46Z date — how about when we only know a year? This is something Aperture didn't do either, but when dealing with photo archives what you want is arbitrary precision date intervals. E.g. 1900-1902 for example.

Anyway. Just pointing out that even though "just files on disk" is the right approach, managing those files and their metadata is far from obvious.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by philistine »

tomovo wrote: post #346
philistine wrote: post #227

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Affinity never made mac-assed Mac apps. Pixelmator is more a Mac app than Messages or Music. That's why they bought them instead of Affinity.

Maybe. Form over function, not a surprise.

A truly well-designed Mac app is not just form, it is function as well. If you think a good Mac citizen is only what it looks like you're not looking at all.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by philistine »

tln wrote: post #345
philistine wrote: post #224

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The competition for the Creator Studio is not exactly Adobe. Of course Apple will be happy to build on their offerings to be able to really take on Adobe, but this subscription is priced to compete with the online services popping up from nowhere that have stolen the ease of use market away from Adobe. The real competition in this market in 2026 is Canva.

Canva, really? Is this looking forward at what is coming? I see the rise of and have to deal with Canva-generated PDFs instead of Adobe Illustrator. So the low end market of video / animation, I could absolutely see Canva dominating. Doubt we'll see audio tools though. Final Cut Pro -- Professional non-linear video editing * Canva? Partial: Best for social clips; lacks FCP’s RAW, multicam, and AI transcript tools. Lo…

You're making your argument backward. The fact Apple can offer a bundle that includes a ton of features that Canva does not have right now does not mean that Canva is not a competitor! Canva just bought the whole Affinity suite and dumped it on the laps of its subscribers for no extra charge. They're on the warpath against Adobe. They want to dethrone them. Apple sees this battle and saw an opportunity to participate. They bought Pixelmator and bundled all their Pro apps together, making a very versatile bundle that is very different from the image editing heavy bundle of Adobe and Canva.

Apple can't take the market from professionals; they need the easel they learned at school. But they can definitely compete with Canva, whose market are untrained artists who need something done easily.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by simjnd »

MattRix wrote: post #434
simjnd wrote: post #251

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They're definitely awful compared to the icons they're replacing. Losing so much identity and detail.

Eh not sure I agree. The former icons are definitely unique, but not consistent or cohesive at all, especially when viewed as a group. I think these new icons will grow on people. There were similar negative reactions back ~15 years ago when Adobe switched to their minimalist icon style.

> There were similar negative reactions back ~15 years ago when Adobe switched to their minimalist icon style.

Adobe icons are terrible and should not be the standard. Photoshop 7, Illustrator 10, InDesign 2 were so much more memorable and recognizable than the lazy minimalist slop we have now. Even the first CS or CS2 icons were a thousand times better. The fact that the company behind the most powerful and popular creative software did this is unforgivable.

Some tasteless manager made a PowerPoint about "brand cohesion", got his promotion and ruined it for everybody else.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by Forgeties79 »

renewiltord wrote: post #241
embedding-shape wrote: post #71

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> break the terms of the license and effectively steal the software We're all (mostly/some) software people here, you don't need to use terms established by the "anti-piracy" firms to make your point, no one is "stealing" anything here, even if they were getting it for free from TPB or whatever.

Indeed. But people are stuck on these archaic unrelated terms for now. AI firms will make the whole thing obsolete while luddites cry about “stealing from artists” and stuff like that.

>luddites cry

oh come on I thought we had gotten past this crap

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by bredren »

embedding-shape wrote: post #421
weinzierl wrote: post #376

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This, plus: - The studio version of DaVinci is still affordable should you need it. - DaVinci has many good tutorials

+ purchasing any BMD camera and you usually get a "free" license of DaVinci :) That's how I got my license many moons ago. Now BMD have "prosumer" cameras available too that doesn't cost half a liver, which the second-hand market seems flush with too, so you can grab really good hardware for "cheap", and get excellent software with it too as the license is movable across hosts :)

I'm surprised to hear the software moves with the hardware! This and the other comments help explain the spread.

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by deafpolygon »

seec wrote: post #430
flenserboy wrote: post #407

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I think many more would be on to Pages if they realized it was more than a simple WP. It's especially great for personal use, where there's no non-Mac sharing needed — there's no simpler layout program out there, & the typographic options are nice to have. If I have something longer/more detailed to put together, that's what ()LaTeX, Inkscape, etc., is for. We need alternate app ecosystems out there, & it's nice that…

It's OK but way too limited for proper layouts and doesn't have enough features for long/complex documents like books. As it is, it's barely better than GDocs but less convenient, and since people rarely need to print stuff, layout isn't that important.

What do you recommend for long/complex documents like books?

Re: Apple Creator Studio

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Post by maomaomiumiu »

This sounds really cool, but I honestly can’t imagine stopping using Adobe apps after so many years and switching to completely new tools. It feels like that would take a lot of time and effort to relearn everything.
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