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Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by crassus_ed »

xtiansimon wrote: post #439
dfabulich wrote: post #112

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

Sorry, ClaudeCode is $200/mo? I’m not using it now, but was thinking about giving it a try. The website shows $200/year for Pro: “$17 Per month with annual subscription discount ($200 billed up front). $20 if billed monthly.” https://claude.com/pricing What are you referring to that’s 10x that price? (Conversely, I’m wondering why Pro costs 1/10 the value of whatever you’re referring to?!?)

I got a pro subscription yesterday. With it you get a certain amount of tokens and you have a certain limit every 5 hours and every week.

Once the limit is reached, you can choose to pay-per-token, upgrade your plan, or just wait until it refreshes. The more expensive subscription variants just contain more tokens, that’s all.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

xtiansimon wrote: post #439
dfabulich wrote: post #112

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

Sorry, ClaudeCode is $200/mo? I’m not using it now, but was thinking about giving it a try. The website shows $200/year for Pro: “$17 Per month with annual subscription discount ($200 billed up front). $20 if billed monthly.” https://claude.com/pricing What are you referring to that’s 10x that price? (Conversely, I’m wondering why Pro costs 1/10 the value of whatever you’re referring to?!?)

They don't exactly put it front and center. Click "usage limits" (at the bottom; https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9797557-usage-limit-b...) then "Max plan" in the first list (https://support.claude.com/en/articles/11014257-about-claude...). There is a $200/mo price which people are likely referring to with "20x more usage per session" (which kinda bothers me because I'd bet my bottom dollar it's 20x "as much" but that's a lost cause).

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by joelwilliamson »

rovr138 wrote: post #415
dkdcio wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(i.e. competitors can still use Claude models but haven’t achieved the same DevEx as CC so far, at least in my opinion and many others) also while I was initially on the “they should open source” boat, and I’m happy Codex CLI did, there are a ton of benefits to keeping to closed source. just look at how much spam and dumb community drama OpenAI employees now have to deal with on GitHub. I increasingly think it’s a sm…

They could open source and not take contributions fwiw. They could close the issues and only allow discussions. There was a project mentioned here recently that did just that. *Edit It was Ghostty, "Why users cannot create Issues directly" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46460319

They could open source it and not even have a Github project associated. Just provide a read-only git repo on anthropic.com or drop a source tarball every release.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by ChicagoDave »

oblio wrote: post #240
ChicagoDave wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just maybe submit feature requests instead of backdooring a closed source system.

All the TUI agents are awful at scrolling. I'm on Ubuntu 24.04 and both Claude Code and Gemini CLI absolutely destroy scrolling. I've tested Claude Code in the VS Code and it's better there, but in the Gnome Terminal it's plain unusable. And a lot of people are reporting scrolling issues. As someone was saying, it's like they don't have access to the world's best coding LLM to debug these issues.

I use Claude Code every day and it works perfectly fine outside of a few bugs (they broke ESC interrupt in 2.1).

I just don’t understand the misplaced anger at breaking TOS (even for a good reason) and getting slapped down.

Like what did anyone think would happen?

We all want these tools and companies to succeed. Anthropic needs to find profit in a few years. It’s in all of our best interests to augment that success, not bitch because they’re not doing it your way.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by rienbdj »

dfabulich wrote: post #112

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

What can we learn from this?

The model is not a moat

They need to own the point of interaction to drive company valuation. Users can more about tool switching costs that the particular model they use.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by tadfisher »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #270
tadfisher wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, they are wrong, and the argument is still a dud.

Netflix would not even exist if you could just freely download all of the media to your computer and play it anytime because of licensing agreements and other factors. So you can think that they are wrong but that's not really rooted in reality or practicality.

That is possible, was always possible, and will continue to be possible, judging by the availability of 4K rips available via piracy.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by cheeze »

llmslave2 wrote: post #285
misternugget wrote: post #180

Engineer working on Amp here. I'm very surprised that it took them this long to crack down on it. It's been against the terms of service from the start. When I asked them back in March last year whether individuals can use the higher rate limits that come with the Claude Code subscription in other applications, that was also a no. Question is: what changed? New founding round coming up, end of fiscal year, planning f…

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Can you share more on this?

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

deveworld wrote: post #192

The fix has been merged in https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode-anthropic-auth/pull/11 , and PR https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/pull/7432 is open to bump the version. Until it's released, here's a workaround: 1. git clone https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode-anthropic-auth.git 2. Add to ~/.config/opencode/opencode.json: "plugin": ["file:///path/to/opencode-anthropic-auth/index.mjs"] 3. Run: OPENCODE_DISABLE_D…

Apparently this has already been stopped in its tracks?

Anthropic seems determined to plug the hole.

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