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Re: Eat Real Food

#441
Diet advice is always way too complex.

For most people ‘stop drinking sugary drinks ever’ would probably make the biggest life change.

And ‘the athletes plate’ would be the runner up bit of advice if you want something simple - half th plate veggies, 1/4 complex carbs, 1/4 unprocessed meat.

If you want to do it with complexity, count your macros.

Re: Eat Real Food

#442

According to https://cdn.realfood.gov/Daily%20Serving%20Sizes.pdf , their recommendations do not meet their calories goal. Eg, for 2000 calories, you can eat 4 egg, 3 cup of milk, 4 slice of bread, 2 apple and 3 tbsp of oil per day. Total calories will be 1,608 kcal/day. It's a very depressing diet menu.

This is exactly what I eat every day and I am phenomenally happy and successful.

Re: Eat Real Food

#443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says 1.2-1.6 grams of protein and healthy fats per kilogram of body weight, from animal and plant sources (including milk). Is that really advocating for more meat?

The implication is that the current food pyramid disproportionately weights against proteins and fats. Assuming that Americans follow the current pyramid (this is a hell of an assumption), then any change to the pyramid that asks them to change their diets in favor of more protein and fat is likely to result in them eating more meat. In reality, I don't think anybody in the US follows the food pyramid religiously. Bu…

> But I do think people (try to) follow the main strokes of what the government tells them is a healthy dietary balance...

Do you really observe that in your circles? I've lived in 6 different states, from Maryland to Idaho, and I've never got an impression that many people take any real though or consideration for their health at all. If anything, I'd armchair guestimate something like 10% of adults seem to put any real attention of effort into their health. I feel like late teens to late college year people put more effort in general, but only because they themselves are on the meat market and don't usually have complex lives (kids, careers)

Re: Eat Real Food

#444

Of note: the US's per capita consumption of meat has increased by more than 100 pounds over the last century[1]. We now consume an immense amount of meat per person in this country. That increase is disproportionately in poultry, but we also consume more beef[2]. A demand for the average American to eat more meat would have to explain, as a baseline, why our already positive trend in meat consumption isn't yielding p…

> the US's per capita consumption of meat That number seemed unreal to me, so I looked it up. I think it represents the total pre-processing weight, not the actual meat meat consumption. From Wikipedia: > As an example of the difference, for 2002, when the FAO figure for US per capita meat consumption was 124.48 kg (274 lb 7 oz), the USDA estimate of US per capita loss-adjusted meat consumption was 62.6 kg (138 lb) P…

Drying doesn't mean anything... The nutrients are still there you're only really losing water.

What evidence do you have that the loss adjusted numbers have gone down while the preprocessed numbers have gone up so dramatically?

Re: Eat Real Food

#445
This has way too much emphasis on meat. Watch Secrets of the Blue Zones on Netflix, and Gamechangers. We can get most of not all our protein from whole plant foods. And plant foods have a ton of phytonutrients that are proven to protect against certain cancerous.

We need to eat real plant food.

Re: Eat Real Food

#447

Diet advice is always way too complex. For most people ‘stop drinking sugary drinks ever’ would probably make the biggest life change. And ‘the athletes plate’ would be the runner up bit of advice if you want something simple - half th plate veggies, 1/4 complex carbs, 1/4 unprocessed meat. If you want to do it with complexity, count your macros.

Cutting sugar is worth trying for many. Even for a few days. You really sense your brain realign on more subtle tastes. And when you finally eat the usual snack or pastry you can feel the sudden overload of sugar (or at least your brain response to it). something you probably never did when sugar intake was high

Re: Eat Real Food

#448
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How is it possible that beef, dairy, and chicken are front and center while Lentils, Tofu (or even just soy), Chickpeas, Nutritional Yeast, Broccoli, etc are all left off? Why do they arbitrarily split "protein" and "fruit/veg" given that most/all of the most protein dense foods are vegetables/legumes? Steak is a terrible source of protein (in terms of nutrient density). Immediately pretty suspicious.

So true thanks for saying this. Seems like a missed opportunity, and definitely suspect of lobbying by the meat industry.

And of course broccoli and legumes doesn't have a lobby group, do they?

Re: Eat Real Food

#449

Speaking from personal experience, this is consistent with multiple doctors over the years recommending high-protein, low carb diets. (Clarification: low does not mean no carb.) I don't understand people freaking out over this - outside of a purely political reflex - hell hath no fury like taking away nerds' Mountain Dew and Flamin' Hot Cheetos. Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP -…

A lot of red meat is probably one angle I can’t get behind. They are very high in cholesterol and triglycerides which are deadly for the heart over the long haul.

The problem is that when people say "red meat" they're almost always referring to the modern "hamburger-like substance" which almost certainly high on the ultra-processed scale.

An actual steak or hamburger ground at a butcher would be a pretty gigantic step up for most people.

Re: Eat Real Food

#450

This isn't a pyramid? Also I'm no health expert but this seems like a ton of protein. I'd like to see what a day of this diet looks like

Also came looking for this comment. I get the symbolism of leaving grains at the bottom, but it's dumb.

Just turn the darn thing over. I won't even complain much about having the bottom bulk be "meat, vegetables, and fruit" with just a tiny layer of grains at the top. But this is a funnel, not a pyramid.

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