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AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Lammy wrote: post #405
xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

They've been planning this outcome for a long time. Here's Larry Ellison in 1997: https://youtu.be/Bk1_btV3oIk?t=402 “The personal computer was designed as a standalone device. There was no Internet around 1981 when the PC was invented. There weren't a lot of local area networks and corporations and schools and government agencies [online] back in 1981. The world has changed — there are networks everywhere; around th…

Who is "they"?

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #398
elbear wrote: post #395

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Maybe you would, if you bought it.

No, I do own some (actually it was more in the VHS days so tapes) and I just found that I never really watched them again. So I stopped buying movies. I'm the same with books. Once I read it, I've read it. I would rarely read a novel twice. I know what's going to happen, so what's the point? Reference books are different of course.

You're not really thinking this through enough. The exact same logic you used can be applied to music: once you've listened to the album once, you know how it will go, so what's the point of listening again? Presumably you do get something out of listening to music again (since you said you do listen to it more than once), so whatever that "something" is... you can infer that others get similar value out of rereading books/rewatching movies, even if you personally don't.

For myself, the answer is "because the story is still enjoyable even if I know how it will end". And often enough, on a second reading/viewing I will discover nuances to the work I didn't the first time. Some works are so well made that even having enjoyed it 10+ times, I can discover something new about it! So yes, the pleasure of experiencing the story the first time can only be had once. But that is by no means the only pleasure to be had.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by Lammy »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #441
Lammy wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've been planning this outcome for a long time. Here's Larry Ellison in 1997: https://youtu.be/Bk1_btV3oIk?t=402 “The personal computer was designed as a standalone device. There was no Internet around 1981 when the PC was invented. There weren't a lot of local area networks and corporations and schools and government agencies [online] back in 1981. The world has changed — there are networks everywhere; around th…

Who is "they"?

How the hell should I know? Do you have any comments on Mr. Ellison's interview, or are you just here to nitpick my wording?

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by LunaSea »

Aperocky wrote: post #374
LunaSea wrote: post #356

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But why do it on a Saturday, when none of their customers are working?

Why wouldn't you do it on a Saturday when most people are not working? What's the best time to change the bus fare, 9AM on Wednesday or midnight between Saturday and Sunday?

On Tuesday after having notified your customers on a Monday to give them advanced notification at least one day in advance for example?

Come on, this is basic customer care and decency we don't need an LLM to understand this.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by nicoburns »

lossolo wrote: post #394
nicoburns wrote: post #281

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Presumably at least in part because China's just as dependent on TSMC as everyone else (at least for the time being). So it's a form of Mutally Assured Destruction, kind of like nuclear weapons. If they actually have to be used, then everyone's in for a bad time, but seeing as nobody wants that, it acts as a disincentive.

This makes no sense. China doesn't want Taiwan because of TSMC, it wanted Taiwan long before TSMC was a major player. The only effect of destroying factories would be to make Taiwan poorer, while China would still get what it wanted.

You're right that this isn't why China want's Taiwan. But the point is that it would also make China poorer. In fact, it would be highly likely to cause a global recession of a magnitude that could threaten the Chinese government due to pressure from it's own citizens.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by nicoburns »

pphysch wrote: post #318
y0ssar1an wrote: post #293

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If Taiwan is being invaded, the annexation is happening. There's no longer any reason to disincentivize annexation. Destroying the fabs is about denying China a major prize.

Destroying the fabs would hurt the West a lot more than China, which is rapidly playing catch up (while US and EU are not). The other glaring flaw in this pop-geopolitics narrative is that China already has enormous economic leverage over the West, even without the chip supply chain.

> Destroying the fabs would hurt the West a lot more than China, which is rapidly playing catch up (while US and EU are not)

Is that true? My understanding is that Intel while somewhat behind TSMC, is (along with Samsung) still broadly keeping pace. Whereas SMIC while rapidly improving is still playing catch-up.

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Post by pyuser583 »

davisr wrote: post #257
muvlon wrote: post #55

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I don't know how everyone arrives at that conclusion when the cost of the subscription services is also going up (as evidenced by the very article we're talking about). People who are renting are feeling this immediately, whereas people who bought their computers can wait the price hikes out for a couple years before they really need an upgrade.

Because the World Economic Forum, where our political and corporate leaders meet and groom each other, point-blank advertised "you will own nothing and be happy."

We’ve been raised to believe “experiences make you happy, not things.”

Everything as a service is the modern marketing ideal.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by vel0city »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #442
SoftTalker wrote: post #398

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I do own some (actually it was more in the VHS days so tapes) and I just found that I never really watched them again. So I stopped buying movies. I'm the same with books. Once I read it, I've read it. I would rarely read a novel twice. I know what's going to happen, so what's the point? Reference books are different of course.

You're not really thinking this through enough. The exact same logic you used can be applied to music: once you've listened to the album once, you know how it will go, so what's the point of listening again? Presumably you do get something out of listening to music again (since you said you do listen to it more than once), so whatever that "something" is... you can infer that others get similar value out of rereading…

> The exact same logic you used can be applied to music: once you've listened to the album once, you know how it will go, so what's the point of listening again?

Most music doesn't have the same kind of narrative and strong plot that stories like novels and movies do, this is a massive difference. And even if it does, it doesn't usually take a half hour or more to do such a change. That's a pretty big difference about the types of art.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by supertrope »

Lammy wrote: post #405
xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

They've been planning this outcome for a long time. Here's Larry Ellison in 1997: https://youtu.be/Bk1_btV3oIk?t=402 “The personal computer was designed as a standalone device. There was no Internet around 1981 when the PC was invented. There weren't a lot of local area networks and corporations and schools and government agencies [online] back in 1981. The world has changed — there are networks everywhere; around th…

While businesses hate being a dumb pipe and love vendor lock in, lots of customers choose dependence on big tech. Each retail business that only has a Facebook page to save the cost of hiring a web developer reinforces this dependence.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Lammy wrote: post #443
Dylan16807 wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is "they"?

How the hell should I know? Do you have any comments on Mr. Ellison's interview, or are you just here to nitpick my wording?

It's not nitpicking. I read the quote and I don't see anything about "planning this outcome", so I took that as something you added, so I asked you.

He's zipping around between topics and I would have said websites already fulfill what he's talking about.

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