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Post by wat10000 »

ryandrake wrote: post #216
chasd00 wrote: post #160

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There's a Family Dollar by my house that is down at least 2 full days per month because of bad inet connectivity. I live close enough that with a small tower on my roof i can get line of sight to theirs. I've thought about offering them a backup link off my home inet if they give me 50% of sales whenever its in use. It would be a pretty good deal for them, better some sales when their inet is down vs none.

You'd think any SeriousBusiness would have a backup way to take customers' money. This is the one thing you always want to be able to do: accept payment. If they made it so they can't do that, they deserve the hit to their revenue. People should just walk out of the store with the goods if they're not being charged. Why doesn't someone in the store at least have one of those manual kachunk-kachunk carbon copy card re…

Many businesses don't lose revenue from short outages, it just gets shifted.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by NDizzle »

Aperocky wrote: post #393
NDizzle wrote: post #353

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They briefly had a statement about using Traffic Manager to work with your AFD to work around this issue, with a link to learn.microsoft.com/...traffic-manager, and the link didn't work. Due to the same issue affecting everyone right now. They quickly updated the message to REMOVE the link. Comical at this point.

The statement is still there though on the status page though

They re-added it once the site was accessible.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by multiplegeorges »

bob1029 wrote: post #362

For some reason an Azure outage does not faze me in the same way that an AWS outage does. I have never had much confidence in Azure as a cloud provider. The vertical integration of all the things for a Microsoft shop was initially very compelling. I was ready to fight that battle. But, this fantasy was quickly ruined by poor execution on Microsoft's part. They were able to convince me to move back to AWS by simply ma…

> At this point I'd rather use GCP over Azure and I have zero seconds of experience with it.

TBH, GCP is very good! More people should use it.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by lazystar »

otterdude wrote: post #418
bob1029 wrote: post #362

For some reason an Azure outage does not faze me in the same way that an AWS outage does. I have never had much confidence in Azure as a cloud provider. The vertical integration of all the things for a Microsoft shop was initially very compelling. I was ready to fight that battle. But, this fantasy was quickly ruined by poor execution on Microsoft's part. They were able to convince me to move back to AWS by simply ma…

What Amazon, Azure, and Google are showing with their platform crashes amid layoffs, while they supports governments that are Oppressing's Citizens and Ignoring the Law, is that they do not care about anything other than the bottom line. They think they have the market captured, but I think what their dwindling quality and ethics are really going to drive is adoption of self hosting, distributed computing frameworks.…

> they do not care about anything other than the bottom line.

if all companies focused on fixing each and every social issue that exists in the world, how would they make any money?

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by tpl »

Part of this outage involves outlook hanging and then blaming random addins. Pretty terrible practice by Microsoft to blame random vendors for their own outage.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by brap »

foresterre wrote: post #440
xmcp123 wrote: post #378

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Many years back was the first time I used Azure, evaluating it for a client. I remember I at one point had expanded enough menus that it covered the entirety of the screen. Never before have I felt so lost in a cloud product.

AWS' UI is similarly messy, and to this day. They regularly remove useful data from the UI, or change stuff like the default sort order of database snapshots from last created to initial instance created date. I never understood why a clear and consistent UI and improved UX isn't more of a priority for the big three cloud providers. Even though you talk mostly via platform SDK's, I would consider better UI especially…

It’s more than just the UI itself (which is horrible), it’s the whole thing that is very hostile to new users even if they’re experienced. It’s such an incoherent mess. The UI, the product names, the entire product line itself, with seemingly overlapping or competing products… and now it’s AI this and AI that. If you don’t know exactly what you’re looking for, good luck finding it. It’s like they’re deliberately trying to make things as confusing as possible.

For some reason this applies to all AWS, GCP and Azure. Seems like the result of dozens of acquisitions.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by verst »

mystcb wrote: post #49
jdc0589 wrote: post #37

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yea its not just the portal. microsoft.com is down too

Yeah, I am guessing it's just a placeholder till they get more info. I thought I saw somewhere that internally within Microsoft it's seen as a "Sev 1" with "all hands on deck" - Annoyingly I can't remember where I saw it, so if someone spots it before I do, please credit that person :D Edit: Typo!

It's a Sev 0 actually (as one would expect - this isn't a big secret). I was on the engineering bridge call earlier for a bit. The Azure service I work on was minimally impacted (our customer facing dashboard could not load, but APIs and data layer were not impacted) but we found a workaround.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by chasd00 »

jrodom wrote: post #226
chasd00 wrote: post #160

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There's a Family Dollar by my house that is down at least 2 full days per month because of bad inet connectivity. I live close enough that with a small tower on my roof i can get line of sight to theirs. I've thought about offering them a backup link off my home inet if they give me 50% of sales whenever its in use. It would be a pretty good deal for them, better some sales when their inet is down vs none.

50% of sales? what do you think the gross margin is on average for each item sold?

It's Family Dollar, margin has to be almost nothing and sales per day is probably I go there daily because it's a nice 30min round trip walk and I wfh. I go up there to get a diet coke or something else just to get out of the house. It amazes me when i see a handwritten sign on the door "closed, system is down". I've gotten to know the cashiers so I asked and it's because the internet connection goes down all the time. That store has to one of the most poorly run things i've ever seen yet it stays in business somehow.
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