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Post by [deleted] »

mightyham wrote: post #330
Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

Is the irony not lost you that Joe Biden pardoned his own son for crimes he was absolutely guilty of. I don't see how that is any less corrupt. This isn't whatboutism either because I'm not trying to say that what Trump is doing is okay, I'm pointing out that this behavior is not particular to Trump and his supporters. The large majority of Americans are fine with corruption as long as it's their team.

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Post by selfmodruntime »

cthalupa wrote: post #403
mightyham wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the irony not lost you that Joe Biden pardoned his own son for crimes he was absolutely guilty of. I don't see how that is any less corrupt. This isn't whatboutism either because I'm not trying to say that what Trump is doing is okay, I'm pointing out that this behavior is not particular to Trump and his supporters. The large majority of Americans are fine with corruption as long as it's their team.

Biden pardoning his son was widely condemned by Democrats. This is despite the fact that Hunter was gone after on a charge that is basically never enforced alongside a media and political campaign ramping up all sorts of lies and half-truths and trying to draw connections to things he was never on trial for, much less convicted of, with an incoming president that had spoken extensively about his desire to weaponize t…

No. You are making it seem like Biden pardoned his family for petty crimes. He pardoned them in advance for any crime they have committed that is yet unknown. That‘s an unprecedented move and you claiming the other side will „come after your family“ basically confirms that the legal system is corrupt and that there is reasonable ground to do so.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by naijaboiler »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #285
froggertoaster wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this.

Trump is the most openly corrupt leader in american history. How can you vote for him while claiming to be against corruption?

Because he’s giving them the one thing they really care about “white nationalism”

They will overlook everything else he does. Everything

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Post by malcolmgreaves »

kbd wrote: post #366
thinkharderdev wrote: post #322

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Trump is definitely the most egregious by a very wide margin, but the pardon power has been abused by every President in my lifetime. It's a truly insane feature of our constitution that needs to be changed.

It doesn't really matter who is more egregious, but IMO a country's leader pardoning his own family members is about as banana republic as it gets.

Because he knew that Trump was a criminal who’d illegally go after his own family purely out of spite.

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Post by GolfPopper »

RandallBrown wrote: post #267
leptons wrote: post #251

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I personally do not know any Americans that are as you described. 1/3 of Americans are as you describe, 1/3 are definitely not at all as you described, and another 1/3 is too apathetic to care about anything. The recent "No Kings" protests were the largest in US history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstra...

> 1/3 is too apathetic to care about anything I think at least some of that 1/3 has their own problems that prevent them from being able to devote energy to politics

They may also have been drawn into the all-too-tempting position of not opposing raw corrupt authoritarianism because the opposition party (the Democratic Party) and pre-Trump America both have deep flaws that are largely ignored.

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Post by jpadkins »

bdavisx wrote: post #12

Serious question - it seems that many of this Administrations activities are illegal in some way or the other. I know that government officials are shielded from a lot of actions so they can not be prosecuted. What actions that have been taken could actually be prosecuted? For example, I would have to assume that the ballroom demolition and build-out is illegal, there were $0 appropriated from Congress for this, and…

> What of these actions are prosecutable?

The President must first be impeached by both parts of Congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_Stat...

The Senate runs a trial for the "high crimes" with the supreme court justice presiding. They can sentence a sitting president IIRC (or just remove him from office in which the DOJ can then prosecute normally).

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Post by raincole »

miohtama wrote: post #346

For the accurate context: CZ was pardoned for a single charge of failure to have an effective compliance program. No fraud, no victims, no criminal history. No money laundering. CZ is the first and only known first-time offender in U.S. history to receive a prison sentence for this single, non-fraud-related charge. The judge found no evidence that he knew of any illicit transactions and that it was reasonable for him…

I hope HN has a way to vouch a comment before it's flagged, because I know this one would be (for being correct.)

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Post by ganksalot »

guywithahat wrote: post #371
miohtama wrote: post #346

For the accurate context: CZ was pardoned for a single charge of failure to have an effective compliance program. No fraud, no victims, no criminal history. No money laundering. CZ is the first and only known first-time offender in U.S. history to receive a prison sentence for this single, non-fraud-related charge. The judge found no evidence that he knew of any illicit transactions and that it was reasonable for him…

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then you know nothing at all about the case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMEJTORMVN4

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Post by silverquiet »

smt88 wrote: post #313
froggertoaster wrote: post #230

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Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this.

People are going to pile on you for not seeing this coming, but I really do appreciate your ability to change your mind and tell people about it. People need space to make a U-turn. I hope you get some grace because it's a lot easier to say "I told you so" than "I was wrong."

I don't see where the GP changed their mind. They may not be ok with this particular action while still preferring the current administration to any alternative.

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Post by ganksalot »

rabf wrote: post #421
miohtama wrote: post #346

For the accurate context: CZ was pardoned for a single charge of failure to have an effective compliance program. No fraud, no victims, no criminal history. No money laundering. CZ is the first and only known first-time offender in U.S. history to receive a prison sentence for this single, non-fraud-related charge. The judge found no evidence that he knew of any illicit transactions and that it was reasonable for him…

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? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMEJTORMVN4
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