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Re: Kagi News

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Looks great for general content. Love that it offers translation. But the Sports section is bad. The game finished 10 hours ago and it's still showing a match preview.

It's generated once a day. Which I love.

It still has the US government shutdown hasn't happened yet. It's really hard to call this news.

Re: Kagi News

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> One daily update: We publish once per day around noon UTC, creating a natural endpoint to news consumption. This is a deliberate design choice that turns news from an endless habit into a contained ritual. I might not agree with all decisions Kagi makes, but this is gold. Endless scrolling is a big indicator that you're a consumer not a customer.

I am not so sure. It currently highlights a story from Munich, and in addition to a few factual errors, the information is simply outdated; there have been numerous new relevant developments. (I also don't understand the selection of sources. Aljazeera? rt.com? South China Morning Post? As if there weren't enough sources of original reporting right from Germany.)

I would agree that a single daily news update is useful (and healthy), but this must also be reflected in the choice of topics and the type of reporting.

Re: Kagi News

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I don't understand this trend of translating UI elements when 100% of the content is English. Who does that help?

Re: Kagi News

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Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly: This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, whi…

Yes, they are not the only player here. Quite a few companies are doing this, if you use Perplexity, they also have a news tab with the exact feature set.

After using Perplexity, its news tab is US-centric, without much options to get regional content from what i can see.

Kagi seems to offer regional news and the sources appear to be from the respective area also. do appreciate public access (for now?) with RSS feeds (ironic but handy).

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Is not the purpose of Kagi that it isn't like Google/Bing excessively buying into LLM hype? I just want an independent sustainable search engine, that's all.

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If I was giving my money to Kagi I'd be mad that they invest it in bullshit side products like this instead of search. It seems like all their recent releases are just following into the AI hype.

Yeah, as a paying customer it is annoying that my money is being used to fuel AI hype instead of to get me off of it.

Re: Kagi News

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post #407

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It's generated once a day. Which I love.

It still has the US government shutdown hasn't happened yet. It's really hard to call this news.

You should check that awkward thing called newspapers, it will blow your mind :)

Re: Kagi News

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Unlike Mozilla's browser, I'd like to believe that our search engine is getting better with each update? Mozilla fell into this trap as its business model was fundamentally broken (majority revenue coming from biggest compatitor). Our business model is healthy and the more apps we have in the ecosystem the stronger the ecosystem gets.

> the more apps we have in the ecosystem the stronger the ecosystem gets that only works if the apps somehow reinforce each other, and spending time developing one app also adds something to the other apps. I'm not sure that's true here. I don't see how an LLM-based news service makes your search service stronger?

They do - Kagi News, Summarize and Translate all contribute back to the ecosystem and are getting integrated cross-product. We are in the business of information consumption and consuming news is one of the fundemental use cases. Having our own pipleine for this is beneficial long term.

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Absolutely, this is just what came to my mind when reading your suggestions. I meant media literacy teaches a lot of methodology that would naturally lead to your suggestions, that's all. > Systems can change. Human brains on a population/genetic level can't. Realistically we can't fix media literacy education and we can't fix journalism, both are systemically broken. But I would never blame people, everyone is the p…

> Realistically we can't fix media literacy education and we can't fix journalism, both are systemically broken. But I would never blame people, everyone is the product of their environment and a victim of the system. I think it's a lot more reasonable to expect change journalism. Or maybe not journalism per se, but information dissemination/world model updates. News/journalism is just the form we've sort of settled…

> Or maybe not journalism per se, but information dissemination/world model updates. News/journalism is just the form we've sort of settled on for that kind of job, but it's fundamentally the wrong thing.

There is no particular reason to assume journalism has a future at all, why rely on a journalists biased summary of a press release and biased editorial teams prioritization of what's important. It increasingly discredits itself, with smaller concentrated ownership and blatant biased reporting (see Iraq war, Gaza genocide). Then the centralization makes it vulnerable to external malicious attacks (see Gawker). But there are so many parts that are hard to replace, credible reporting on current events and investigative journalism, that requires resources mostly only present in large organizations like the visual investigations team at the nyt. It's broken but hard to replace, especially making it decentralized.

But anyway, kagi news does nothing.

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