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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Classic removal of agency from real revolutions to avoid thinking critically about the real problems a country has, and instead blame a foreign boogeyman. A favorite tactic of authoritarian regimes and the tankies that love them.

Yeah, it is similar to dismissing any information that contradicts the official narrative as 'conspiracy theory', without actually going the length to do actual real fact checking. On the other hand, if a foreign country really wanted to destabilize you, can they do anything better than to exploit real grievances of the local population?

Knocking you over with military force technically destabilizes things far more than just existing grievances which may have gone off without their intervention at all. Perhaps more destabilization than they even want things to be.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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It was absolutely not just social media ban, it was mostly youth protesting against the corrupt government and unfairness, social media ban was one element that was against the freedom of speech, but it was right around the time where everyone was documenting the rich politicians, their business connections and their families that have been living lavishly and just inheriting the election seats from generation to gen…

> "kids don't get facebook and throw tantrum". But you cannot ignore that aspect - addicts do get aggressive, even violent, when they don't get their fix. So they are indeed vulnerable and politically susceptible.

Nice Kafkatrap you have there. Getting upset about losing something means that you are an addict.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Quite similar corruption is happening here in America! Donald trump made over $3.8B since getting into office this year, while tanking farming, jobs market, and foreign relations.

He made that with the business he already had and some legal cryptocurrency investment based on capitalizing his fame. How on earth you call that "corruption"? Are you even aware of what the word means?

Political corruption entails at least one of: - Bribery - Embezzlement of public form - Nepotism, cronyism, or patronage

You can accuse him of beign inmoral, but “corruption” has a very specific meaning.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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> I’m not sure how anyone listening to the American discourse around Israel and Gaza can conclude there is a chilling effect around anything in the public space You're just not being targeted, aren't exposed to it or aren't paying attention. In my comment, I said, "People in other cities who voice this same concern are getting kidnapped or become the subject of targeted harassment campaigns that include vans rolling…

> The “doxxing truck” appeared days after the Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups Called out academia as an exception. > You have not even seen the billboards I'm talking about, have not asked me about them, you're just dismissing them out of bias I’m dismissing them on the basis of being billboards. > They are actively creating a conflict narrative Yeah. That’s legitimate speech. To pretend there isn’t a debate abou…

The aim of the billboards I am speaking of is to confuse the semantics between anti-Israel speech and antisemitism, and to normalize ostracization of those who do either, effectively contributing to the chilling of speech over time by forcing dissenters to be more careful about when and where they denounce they genocide.

You are taking for granted how many of these damn billboards have cropped up recently and how prominent they are. Don't you make the connection to McCarthyism? We've seen all of these tactics before, and road signs have long been a prominent medium for controlling public opinion.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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> "Stricter regulations" like what? For communication platforms (messengers) - the same kind that telecom companies are bound to, for example. For social media platforms - similar to what older media platforms are bound on content, editorial / journalistic format and integrity etc. Both also require new, stricter privacy and data laws. I live in a democracy and I find the idea of BigTech "regulating" itself while als…

>For communication platforms (messengers) - the same kind that telecom companies are bound to, for example. So, like, maximum response time to outages? That kind of thing? Do you actually understand what you're asking for? Those sorts of regulations exist as consumer protections, because you're paying for a service, so a minimum standard of quality is required. You don't pay for WhatsApp, Telegram, Matrix, etc. If yo…

> Do you actually understand what you're asking for? Those sorts of regulations exist as consumer protections, because you're paying for a service ...

Yes, I do understand what I am asking for - these should indeed be paid services (subsidised by the government through a common national communication infrastructure, to make it cheaper for ordinary people). This gives three benefits - (1) strong consumer rights (no grey areas about who owns your data, better privacy, better recourse on poor service, mandated inter-connection between networks etc.), (2) creates a more competitive market (right now, the biggest problem with "free" services are that you need a lot of money, for a very long period, to compete with them, thus giving rich, foreign corporates a natural advantage) and (3) reduces surveillance capitalism and protects national security.

> You don't pay for WhatsApp, Telegram, Matrix, etc.

We do pay for it with our personal data that is mined to create profiles which is then used to manipulate us with advertisement. This data is also sold to (foreign) intelligence agencies thereby endangering a country's national security.

> First, social media platforms are not journalistic outlets.

If you speak publicly, to a mass audience, you need to care about what you say, just as newspapers / news channels are obliged to do so. If you create content for a mass audience, you should abide by the content regulation that the television and movies do too.

> if your country has free speech in its constitution, it doesn't have regulation of journalists.

My country (India) doesn't prescribe absolute free speech for individuals, like the US does (for various reasons, which we indians are comfortable with). Indian courts however uphold a higher threshold for restricting free speech in the media, to prevent governments from abusing their power.

By regulation for editors and journalists, I was talking about a different kind of regulation - in the old media (newspapers) once you appointed an editor or a journalist, there is a very high bar to fire them. This kind of job security allowed editors and journalists more freedom to resist editorial interferences from their employees, thus empowering the fourth estate in our democracy. There is also a high restriction to hiring foreigners for such jobs. (This is no longer the case for newer media and we can already see the crap it has become). A similar kind of setup can be enforced for social media reviewers too, ensuring platform owners and algorithm don't control the flow of info on it, and local people (and not foreigners) do.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

#446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Classic removal of agency from real revolutions to avoid thinking critically about the real problems a country has, and instead blame a foreign boogeyman. A favorite tactic of authoritarian regimes and the tankies that love them.

Yeah, it is similar to dismissing any information that contradicts the official narrative as 'conspiracy theory', without actually going the length to do actual real fact checking. On the other hand, if a foreign country really wanted to destabilize you, can they do anything better than to exploit real grievances of the local population?

> can they do anything better than to exploit real grievances of the local population?

Nope. The myth of parachuting into a country and overthrowing a government is just that.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Be even more clear, there isn't a single claim any of the Twitter files have made that have been substantiated. These are pseudo journalists running cover for their billionaire benefactors.

Hilarious that the supposed validity of information is the metric in which you forgive any possibility of censure. You people aren't real, I am convinced; no human being is this foolish if left to themselves.

Would you like to try again to use words to actually say something?

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Be even more clear, there isn't a single claim any of the Twitter files have made that have been substantiated. These are pseudo journalists running cover for their billionaire benefactors.

According to whom?

The entire thing collapsed when Elon abandoned it after less than convincing results then the journalist he handpicked for it turned on Elon.

It didn't prove any of the conclusions they had clearly already decided were true.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4536394-twitter-files-jou...

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

#449

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Yeah, it is similar to dismissing any information that contradicts the official narrative as 'conspiracy theory', without actually going the length to do actual real fact checking. On the other hand, if a foreign country really wanted to destabilize you, can they do anything better than to exploit real grievances of the local population?

Knocking you over with military force technically destabilizes things far more than just existing grievances which may have gone off without their intervention at all. Perhaps more destabilization than they even want things to be.

> Knocking you over with military force technically destabilizes things far more

There are just as many examples of national identity being forged in war than there are it being removed.

For example, Russian-speaking Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine had no affinity for Kyiv and didn't think of themselves as Ukrainian before Russia invaded. Now they do.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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> US has definitely loosened some of the free speech restrictions Press, academic and political speech freedoms are at a generational low point in America. The President has never before had the power to directly police academic speech and the media’s coverage of him. MAGA voters have no idea the power they’ve given the Presidency, which could be used in the future by a Democrat President to literally just cut fundin…

It's because they have been actors in cancel culture and progressive left propaganda machine. They have been exactly those who were harming free expression, in collusion with social networks.

Now, they reap what they sow.

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