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Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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ericmay wrote: post #433
donkeybeer wrote: post #430

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Give me a million dollars right now, and I will buy everything with supreme moral and ethical standards. If you truly believe in it, then you'd immediately give me a million instead of demanding the impossible: for someone to buy things several times out of their capabilities if you sum all items up.

Do you endorse literal slave labor then to make prices as low as possible?

Show me cases of "slave labor" where the workers don't strongly prefer that "slave shop" to whatever existence they would have without it.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by donkeybeer »

ericmay wrote: post #435
donkeybeer wrote: post #429

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again you are repeatedly failing to understand the word "luxury". Please look it up in a dictionary somewhere. Luxuries are nice, I can afford many luxuries. Others can't. All for the stupidity of paying more to gain absolutely nothing more at that, not even for any meaningful discernible difference.

If the prices are the same and there’s no difference then keeping buying the imported product.

Correct. You made a formerly cheap product artificially expensive.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by donkeybeer »

ericmay wrote: post #440
donkeybeer wrote: post #437

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Are you sure they did? You have to give a precise list of those items which have been artificially cheapened by the other govts before you impose tariffs then. Obviously you can't believe the USA is the peak at every possible sector. Or do you really believe that another country being better at something must mean they are cheating? Give me the list or stop the tariff bs. Sometimes, there is no deeper explanation for…

I don’t care if “other country” can make t-shirts better than we can. I care that we make them with our labor and keep our money here instead of going into debt and losing jobs. China for example doesn’t allow US social media companies. There you go. There’s one item which is all we need, therefore tariffs against China are justified until they open their markets to free competition from the US. Hell, just this week…

I am glad we finally admitted its not about this or that labor or other nonsense but about being a sore loser.

And you seem to be forgetting I am equally in opposition of tariffs and consider it fucking shit when China or anyone else does it.

Be sore losers, nobody is stopping you, I just truly and earnestly hope for the sake of your country that I am wrong.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

#444

Post by ericmay »

donkeybeer wrote: post #441
ericmay wrote: post #433

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you endorse literal slave labor then to make prices as low as possible?

Show me cases of "slave labor" where the workers don't strongly prefer that "slave shop" to whatever existence they would have without it.

That’s not what we are discussing though. You’re criticizing my moral superiority over working or environmental conditions - but you clearly have your own moral superiority or else you’d be fine with literally anything needed including actual slave labor to get products as cheap as possible.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by ericmay »

donkeybeer wrote: post #442
ericmay wrote: post #435

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the prices are the same and there’s no difference then keeping buying the imported product.

Correct. You made a formerly cheap product artificially expensive.

And now our domestic product is cost competitive which seems just fine to me.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by donkeybeer »

ericmay wrote: post #444
donkeybeer wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Show me cases of "slave labor" where the workers don't strongly prefer that "slave shop" to whatever existence they would have without it.

That’s not what we are discussing though. You’re criticizing my moral superiority over working or environmental conditions - but you clearly have your own moral superiority or else you’d be fine with literally anything needed including actual slave labor to get products as cheap as possible.

You are lying and trying to put words into me by making up this imaginary "slave labor" concept. I ask you again, go ask the sweatshoppers if they prefer life in the sweatshop to life before the sweatshop.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by ericmay »

donkeybeer wrote: post #446
ericmay wrote: post #444

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not what we are discussing though. You’re criticizing my moral superiority over working or environmental conditions - but you clearly have your own moral superiority or else you’d be fine with literally anything needed including actual slave labor to get products as cheap as possible.

You are lying and trying to put words into me by making up this imaginary "slave labor" concept. I ask you again, go ask the sweatshoppers if they prefer life in the sweatshop to life before the sweatshop.

I’ll take that as a retraction of your moral superiority nonsense.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by donkeybeer »

ericmay wrote: post #448
donkeybeer wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are lying and trying to put words into me by making up this imaginary "slave labor" concept. I ask you again, go ask the sweatshoppers if they prefer life in the sweatshop to life before the sweatshop.

I’ll take that as a retraction of your moral superiority nonsense.

Why haven't you stopped beating your wife?

I take that as you admitting you are a complete liar who puts words into others mouths and unable to answer not just one but several very easy questions.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

#450

Post by ericmay »

donkeybeer wrote: post #443
ericmay wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t care if “other country” can make t-shirts better than we can. I care that we make them with our labor and keep our money here instead of going into debt and losing jobs. China for example doesn’t allow US social media companies. There you go. There’s one item which is all we need, therefore tariffs against China are justified until they open their markets to free competition from the US. Hell, just this week…

I am glad we finally admitted its not about this or that labor or other nonsense but about being a sore loser. And you seem to be forgetting I am equally in opposition of tariffs and consider it fucking shit when China or anyone else does it. Be sore losers, nobody is stopping you, I just truly and earnestly hope for the sake of your country that I am wrong.

You claimed we were sore losers. I don’t care what you call us. We are fine with our tariffs and being whatever names you want to call us. It’s funny how mad everyone seems to be. Oh you’re just sore losers. Oh this isn’t going to work. Blah blah blah and on and on and on and all the kicking and screaming about it just tells me that your protests are an admission that it’s a good idea.

> And you seem to be forgetting I am equally in opposition of tariffs and consider it fucking shit when China or anyone else does it.

You asked and I delivered. I wasn’t accusing you of being in favor of trade barriers.

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