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4chan isn't rightwing and it never was, but since 2016 and especially since 2020 the userbase has been moving to the left, because at its core 4chan is always counter culture.
But 4chan is most of all pro free speach, which is a different axis, which has opponents left, right and center .
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I doubt it heavily. CF has control over a large chunk of the global internet - they're not going to go thru their clients one by one and make sure they're doing age verification. That's absurd and far too expensive. The alternative to that is either: 1. UK blocks cloudflare (unlikely, come on now) 2. UK gives cloudflare a pass (fairly common) 3. Somewhere in-between. Maybe UK cares about highly visible people behind…
> they're not going to go thru their clients one by one and make sure they're doing age verification no, they just drop customers when people complain that they host legal content they happen to disagree with (KF).
I think if you want cloudflare to host your site, don't kill people with your site. That seems fair IMO.
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> they're not going to go thru their clients one by one and make sure they're doing age verification no, they just drop customers when people complain that they host legal content they happen to disagree with (KF).
You're complaining that Cloudflare doesn't want to host a site that literally killed people? I think if you want cloudflare to host your site, don't kill people with your site. That seems fair IMO.
If you want to talk about content that objectively breaks laws... 8chan hosts monkey torture videos.
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£75 a month seems very reasonable for sports nerds, compared to the cost and availability in the past People don’t want to ly for content, that’s as old as the hills. I don’t do sport, and I wouldn’t fund such a terrible exploitative industry (televised sports is all about getting people hooked on gambling), but I’ve certainly spent that much for entertainment I do like in the past - and far more. A night at the thea…
>£75 a month seems very reasonable for sports nerds, compared to the cost and availability in the past good that you ignore the actual point of the comment that you replied to >That won't actually allow you to watch all of the matches that are played, because for weird historical reasons there's a TV blackout on matches played on Saturday afternoon - even if you've paid for your subscriptions, you'll only be able to…
Personally I have no problem with people acquiring shows which are otherwise unavailable, as long as it’s not simply an excuse not to pay, which it so often is.
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I don’t have to show ID, but I do have to pay the bill, which means a direct debit, which means over 18. The correct solution (in addition to bill layer control and arguably compulsory support for an “over 18” tag in dns which would be easy enough to implement for the same sites that currently demand over 18s, would be to help parents utilise parental controls (having recently been through it with Minecraft and fortn…
I think the correct solution would be to make parents responsible for actually using those controls, as they always have been for controlling a child's access to such materials in other media. For example, if you have a stack of explicit DVDs and it becomes apparent that your child has access to them, then you will likely get a visit from social services and potentially suffer legal consequences up to and including r…
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We need a DNS server with a history database, not just a cache, preferably with a distributed history database. Visit a website and it was blocked by the "official" DNS? Declare the IP invalid in the webUI (or the browser plugin) of the local DNS and it will get you the previous IP from the database.
/etc/hosts, and /etc/resolv.conf.
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Or teach people how to point to a different DNS server in an area with laws more amenable to their preferences.
Until coutry implement the great firewall and it becomes a play of cat & mouse.
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Until coutry implement the great firewall and it becomes a play of cat & mouse.
... or until the blocking starts at the root name servers. There are only a few of them.
As for censorship, because it's hierarchical, they'd have to remove an entire country code from the root servers.
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Could they compel Starlink to not offer service there?
I don't know, is it easy for chinese residents to subscribe and pay invoices for a Starlink connection?
Is that comparable, for the UK? Maybe other EU members would agree?
As an American, I have trouble comprehending multiple governments colluding to enable mass government censorship, and expecting to stay in power. But, I know nothing of the European mindset.