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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

dwaite wrote: post #318
highwaylights wrote: post #300

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No judgement here. I liked my touchbar, and was pretty productive with it before it got axed.

I maintain that if the Touch Bar had been made full height and had an affordance (like slightly more distance) to prevent accidental touches, it would have been way more practical. Apple tends to have products on a design refresh schedule, and for the Mac is it about five years. I think the combination of user dislike of the initial implementation and limited developer integration caused the physical Touch Bar to be…

There are a few unicode characters I keep finding myself needing to type when I transcribe, and the Touchbar would be perfect for this. Except, there's no good way to just "add keys for that". You have add quick actions, which means writing Applescript that copies those into the clipboard and pastes... this is slow enough that it's noticeable (never mind having to first hit the quick actions button). On top of that, even though the label for the quick action is that single character, the buttons that it renders are like 2 inches wide. So instead of being able to fit 20 such buttons/keys on it, I can fit exactly 6. You have to swipe left and right to see the others.

Is there a Minecraft extension so that the Touchbar becomes the game's hotbar with icons? I've never looked.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by ElijahLynn »

Yay, it has native wireless charging via Qi2, AKA Pixelsnap. The rumors on the internet were that you needed a special case to use the wireless charging. But that is not true after all and those rumors were false.

You can just plop a Qi2 charger right on your phone and it will charge! Only bummer is that the 10 pro charges at 15w while the 10 pro XL charges at 25w. And I really prefer the smaller phones that fit in my pockets. Not some huge monster phone.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

Rohansi wrote: post #412
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #388

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Intent. Apps can only ever be installed by me, barring complicated exploit chains, while browsers can navigate without any input from me whatsoever. That serves as an extremely narrow funnel that vastly reduces surface area. This is also why I’m more receptive to installed PWAs being more capable. They’re both on the other side of my intent funnel and assuming a good implementation can’t ever navigate to domains that…

Sure, browsers can navigate without your input, but what good would that do to bypass permissions? You can't use that to automatically grant your website permissions. And permissions are isolated to specific domains as if they were separate apps, so you can't just use permissions granted on domain A from domain B. Not everything needs to be a PWA. Yes, they're great alternatives to apps, but why should anyone be forc…

Like I said, it’s surface area. It’s much larger in the case of the web since there’s any number of scenarios in which a user’s browser can be coaxed into running code that exploits a vulnerability that bypasses permissions and isolation (which is always possible by virtue of the browser being a privileged app, whether there are known exploits or not).

This sort of thing can happen with installed apps too, but the likelihood overall is far lower, especially if selecting judiciously.

The overwhelming majority of web apps don’t need filesystem access or similar special functionality, and thus users aren’t forced to install them.

In my personal experience, if my interest level in an app is so low that I wasn’t willing to install it, I was never going to use it in the first place either because the app wasn’t compelling enough or I didn’t have any actual need for it.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by [deleted] »

mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by pier25 »

mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I've been using Android for years but for reasons recently switched to an iPhone.

I gotta say Android is superior in a number of things like call and SMS spam.

Also typing on iOS is a frustrating experience. I type "Im" and the iOS keyboard won't offer "I'm" as a correction option. I've even tried using the Google Keyboard on iOS and the multilingual predictions are just not as good as on Android.

I would have preferred to get a Pixel but Google doesn't distribute their physical products where I live.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by coldpie »

expensive_news wrote: post #433
coldpie wrote: post #230

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> yet smaller phones have an extremely hard time actually selling enough units to justify making more of them I don't buy this. The iPhone 13 Mini all by itself sold 6 million units in a year. That's about half the rate of Google's entire Pixel lineup. The market is small, yeah, but it definitely exists. I think a company could quietly make a high quality, straightforward, small Android device with maybe every-other-…

This thread seems to have a lot of people that love the iPhone mini (me included - I still use my 12 mini). But from all reports that you can find with a quick search it seems clear that it did not sell well by Apple standards. I would love them to bring it back and I’m not sure what it is about the Hacker News crowd that makes this phone over-represented. Maybe the tech crowd also uses laptops more, so we think of p…

> by Apple standards

Yeah. The question I'm trying to answer is not "does it make sense for Apple to make a small phone?", but rather "does it make sense for anyone to make a small phone?" I'm using the 13 Mini's sales data as evidence, because it is the one and only small phone made in the past decade or so.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by bjackman »

pornel wrote: post #65
jjice wrote: post #10

> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. Running Gemini Nano on device is the most interesting thing here. Magic Cue sounds exactly like the Siri improvements that Apple failed to launch this past year (and have stayed mostly quiet about for this coming year, except saying "eventually"). I hope it works well, because on-device AI for simple…

The Nano model is 3.2B parameters at 4bit quantization. This is quite small compared to what you get from hosted chatbots, and even compared to open-weights models runnable on desktops. It's cool to have something like this available locally anyway, but don't expect it to have reasoning capabilities. At this size it's going to be naive and prone to hallucinations. It's going to be more like a natural language regex a…

Speculation: I guess the idea is they build an enormous inventory of tool-use capabilities, then this model mostly serves to translate between language and Android's internal equivalent of MCP.

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Post by [deleted] »

gertrunde wrote: post #434
mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I have to admit, my experience with #1 was quite different. 1. Put pixel on a flat surface. 2. Half an hour later, discover that the the surface wasn't actually flat, as phone the phone crashes to the ground, having been slowly inching its way off the 'flat' surface by virtue of the magically friction free back case of the phone... No joke, by far the slipperyest phone I have ever had, and the one I slapped a case on…

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

hattar wrote: post #125
mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I use an iphone and have for many years. I was a phone geek who would always use custom ROMs and have everything dialed in just so. I'm sure this has changed over the years but back in the day it seemed like there was always some weird issue with my Android phone. Admittedly, a lot of that could have been my fault for constantly messing with the device. Eventually I got busy and just needed my phone to do the simple…

>Proper unlock with FaceID is so damn convenient. I don't know for sure, but suspect going back to a fingerprint would really bug me.

Being able to unlock my password manager with the fingerprint, rather than putting in the vault password every time was great, but my iPhone got too old for the other apps I needed and now I'm stuck typing in a gibberish 30-char password every time I need to use it on my phone. When are we going to get under-the-screen fingerprint sensors?

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by TylerE »

vbezhenar wrote: post #439
mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I prefer iPhone for a miriad of little things. Can't name one particular thing, but it's just constant annoyance, when I have to use Android. I probably could write a list of 100 items, if I'd care to document it all. That said, after Apple started drinking AI juice, I don't want to deal with it anymore. Another major annoyance with iPhones is that they ditched touch ID. Face ID just doesn't work with me at all, it's…

The single thing that solidifys it for me is that every Android device I have ever used has suffered from noticeable micro stuttering.

Their current top of the line TV device drops an entire video frame every couple of seconds while watching 60fps content, cause very noticeable jerking.

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