Why are we surprised? A centralized payment system, especially a banking one, is bound to do something like this. Crypto solves this but the average normie is still stupid enough to rely on them
Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
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Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
#442Earlier quoted context omitted.
IIRC the rule Mastercard cited was so vague that trying to workaround it almost seemed potentially pointless. It was basically a blanket "we think it makes MasterCard look bad so we end our relationship". Anyway, debit cards are still Visa/mastercard so using them as cash has the same problem. I was thinking they could just use Steam gift cards but since those are often themselves purchased in stores or with credit c…
>Steam did support bitcoin at one point but decided to end usage because the price fluctuations made it to unpredictable on their end. Valve knew that there would be price fluctuations. Everyone knew that, and knew how to deal with it. They just priced the games in dollars, with a conversion to the Bitcoin value at the moment of sale. But what Valve did NOT expect was that the Bitcoin blockchain would suddenly grow s…
Are you sure that Bitcoin payments work much better because the amount of payments has dissipated?
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#443> Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down, but Valve says payment processors 'specifically cited' a Mastercard rule about damaging the brand Who in heaven’s name associates a credit card company with the image/ethics of the transactions it’s processing as long as the businesses are legal?? What I think of when I hear Mastercard? A plastic card with numbers on it, connected to my bank account and off…
I mean, to be a bit of a devil's advocate, its not impossible. Bitcoin sort of has the reputation of being used to buy "shady stuff". Its not unreasonable for MasterCard to not want to be "That card company people buy edgy porn with". Which is why we need them to be legally required to process all lawful transactions, so that they cannot be singled out for it.
> Bitcoin sort of has the reputation of being used to buy "shady stuff".
That’s because practically no one gets gas and buys groceries with it.
All the porn of the world wouldn’t be a drop in the sea that is MasterCard.
Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
#444I wonder if valve could just become a bank or create its own credit card without these rules.
Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
#445Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't Bitcoin impractical for these sorts of transactions (slow, high fees, no privacy, etc)? People always say Bitcoin was designed to solve this sort of thing but whenever I've looked into it it's been fairly impractical for use in most day-to-day transactions.
Honestly buying a digital game is perfect. Steam can just give it to you right away, and if the transaction doesn't clear they can just revoke the game later.
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Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
#446Before getting all worked up, I would advise people to look at what games exactly were banned, and see if it’s a case of power abuse or simply a case of “we can all agree that rape and incest games are disgusting and have no place in an entertainment web site visited by kids”.
> we can all agree that rape and incest games are disgusting and have no place in an entertainment web site visited by kids We can then also agree that a game where you beat someone into a bloody pulp with a bat is equally disgusting. Why do we treat rape and murder differently?
So you disagree that these games are disgusting?
Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
#447Before getting all worked up, I would advise people to look at what games exactly were banned, and see if it’s a case of power abuse or simply a case of “we can all agree that rape and incest games are disgusting and have no place in an entertainment web site visited by kids”.
Unless there is actual real-word harm to someone (which is hard to imagine happening from a video game), no, I don't agree with you. What your kids are exposed to is your responsibility. Don't burden the rest of society because you can't be bothered to set your own boundaries.
Removing incest games is not a burden to society
Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
#448Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
#449Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Steam did support bitcoin at one point but decided to end usage because the price fluctuations made it to unpredictable on their end. Valve knew that there would be price fluctuations. Everyone knew that, and knew how to deal with it. They just priced the games in dollars, with a conversion to the Bitcoin value at the moment of sale. But what Valve did NOT expect was that the Bitcoin blockchain would suddenly grow s…
Are you sure that Bitcoin payments work much better because the amount of payments has dissipated?
bitcoin lightning has been the solution for it
Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down
#450Before getting all worked up, I would advise people to look at what games exactly were banned, and see if it’s a case of power abuse or simply a case of “we can all agree that rape and incest games are disgusting and have no place in an entertainment web site visited by kids”.
It doesn't matter because it is up to Steam what products they list to sell, not to MC/Visa.
If I had a business, I wouldn’t touch that kind of media with a ten foot pole. Why should these be forced to provide their service?