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‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

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Re: ‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

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In ideal world international peacekeeping forces would be deployed in Gaza. The peace and two state solution could only be enforced by imposing severe sanctions on Israel including possibility of aerial NATO strikes like in the former Yugoslavia.

UN peace keepers were assigned to southern Lebanon after the 2006 war. They didnt do anything as Hezbollah remilitarized heavily. Israel cannot trust external peacekeepers.

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They may oppose the current arrangement of the government but they don't disagree with the occupation and ethnic cleansing. > Eurasia Poll: 82% of Israelis want to expel Palestinians from Gaza; 47% want to kill every man, woman, child https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/05/30/poll-israelis-exp...

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This is actually what the Nazis thought the Jews wanted - "if we dont exterminate them, theyll exterminate us".

Their actions made sense in this context.

It's one of several ways the zionists mirror the nazis.

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So take Yemen where American weapons to Saudi Arabia has been used to kill people in Yemen.

People have protested the US bombing Yemen

https://x.com/davidmryder/status/1746049132027150672

The duration (mostly over already) and death toll are less as well.

Re: ‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

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Israeli here, can't directly answer your question since I've lived in the US for 99% of my adult life, but I consider myself pro-Israel and resent the way Israel is currently/always being portrayed. I see the key problem as people removing context: Context for why the current situation could easily be different if Hamas acted/acts differently, and context for why there is no "just stop fighting" option that leaves Is…

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Can you be more specific why you think so? I don't think what the commenter you are responding to said would meet the definition of collective punishment under international law.

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I often don't endorse the behavior of Israeli settlers. I'm responding to the question of what Israelis think about the news in general, a question to which I wanted to contribute the context of Israel's precarious existential security as a sovereign Jewish state.

It's the "Jewish" in Jewish state that lies at the root of the conflict, isn't it? There aren't many options to maintain a dominant ethnic identity in a democracy when the land the nation was founded on was already inhabited by people who don't share in that identity. The only option is to either cede that ethnic identity or to engage in mass displacement and disenfranchisement. It's exceedingly subtle the way ethno-…

There are currently about 40 countries that have a higher Muslim percentage than Israel's Jewish percentage. Many of them much higher. Many of them kicked out all their Jews in recent history.

Re: ‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

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In ideal world international peacekeeping forces would be deployed in Gaza. The peace and two state solution could only be enforced by imposing severe sanctions on Israel including possibility of aerial NATO strikes like in the former Yugoslavia.

In an ideal world none of the past 70 years of conflicts that led to this unrecoverable resentfulness would have happened. Unfortunately the only peaceful solution I can imagine is for Israel to let Gazans move to other Arab-world countries, let Israel annexate Gaza, and then imposing strict border controls and watches such that if Israel attempts any ethnic cleansing or illegal occupation they get severly sanctioned…

> Gazans move to other Arab-world countries

This is a problem for the neighbouring countries, isn't it? They don't want to deal with a bunch of new people any more than any other country does.

> let Israel annexate Gaza

This is just admitting that might makes right

> and then imposing strict border controls... severly sanctioned

You would need people to actually believe this

Even so, this plan does not address the fact that both parties really really want to live on the same land. You might as well ask the Israelis why they aren't content to resettle some other place, they wouldn't accept it anymore than the Palestinians would.

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It looks like israel is the one rejecting 2-state solutions* * - 2-state means 2 co-equal states, with equal people, and equal rights (including the equal right to be safe from the other)

Hamas has quite literally never been open to anything like this. Israel no longer is, but they definitely were before the second intafada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter

Hamas is willing to accept the 1967 borders as Palestine.

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