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GLP-1s are breaking life insurance

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Re: GLP-1s are breaking life insurance

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With all of these long acting GLP's you will get a much smoother experience dosing them 2-3 times/week.

Maybe in the first few weeks, but their half-life is 7 days. You're not doing much besides making a hassle for yourself if your doing that after the first couple of weeks

The amount of "time on" is completely irrelevant. You will reduce peaks and troughs by injecting > once/week, this is a fact.

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I'm just reporting my cached knowledge of people saying they experienced some adverse side effects. Also injections are not fun, even though they are probably a lot less annoying than they look.

A once-weekly subcutaneous injection is not a big deal for most people I think, outside of those who are very afraid of needles. It's a tiny needle and you don't even feel it. I've given injections to people who are afraid of needles, and they sometimes close their eyes in fear and are begging me to "just get it over with" without even realizing that I'm already done. Anyway, all this to say that outside of needle-ph…

I take 18 shots a week - Big fan of better living through chemistry I don't even notice the SubQ shots anymore. The only annoying part is I have to lean forward to find enough belly fat when I shoot there. Still not a huge fan of the IM injections into my legs but we all suffer for our art.

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GLP-1s have legitimately changed my life for the better. I've always been very active but have consistently been moderately overweight. A relatively low dose of Semaglitide has helped me lose 40lbs and keep it off. I'm a year and a half in and have had very few side effects, no loss of efficacy, and my muscle mass has increased slightly despite all the negative press about muscle loss. My diet is similar in compositi…

> my muscle mass has increased slightly how was this measured?

Day to day I use a home body composition scale (Withings Body Scan), the results of which have been corroborated by two Dexascans I've done at my gym a little less than a year apart.

For me personally, the little bit of help in the form of forward progress on weight loss has given me a reason to be a little more methodical in my strength training, and I'm seeing a slow but consistent payoff. And as far as I can tell, I'm not fighting an uphill battle in terms of adding muscle mass at all because of the GLP-1.

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Clinical psychologist here in Norway, and just my subjective experience: People stop GLP1 agonists for the following reasons, in descending order: - They want to enjoy eating again. - Medications are a hassle. - Worry about long-term effects, even if there is no alarming evidence for now. - Price (we are a spoiled/rich country). - Other (like hating needles, feeling bad for taking medications that others need more, b…

Did you see a decrease in people gambling / drinking when on the medication? N=1, I'm on ZepBound and in general my brain is less likely to give in to things that give instant satisfaction.

I can't drink whatsoever now. I've been on Wegovy for ~4 months. I used to be a VERY light drinker, i.e. like 10 drinks per YEAR (rum and diet coke, glass of wine, or 2-3 beers in a night). I would usually get a drink when my band played. A month or so ago, I got a bourbon, which I'll happily sip for an hour while talking, and I had to force it down, and left over half of it. Same with a beer; I went to a baseball game with some friends, someone bought the group some drinks, and it was disgusting.

It was like whatever enjoyment lightbulb that is usually activated was completely unscrewed, or like trying it for the first time as a kid when an adult lets you try a sip on a holiday. Just sitting here typing and thinking about it has me slightly nauseated. I've been telling people recently I CAN'T drink because of some new medicine I've started.

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For semaglutide, the newest and most potent GLP1. United States: The main patent is expected to expire around 2032. Monthly Price: $950 - $1,350+ (cash price without insurance) Norway: The main patent is expected to expire around 2031. Monthly Price: $109 - $301 (cash price equivalent in USD)

That US price is way too high. No consumer pays that much. You can buy it straight from Novo for $500/mo.

Lilly also offers it direct to consumer for $500/mo

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So... There's a miracle drug powerful enough to robustly lower people's all cause mortality, but since health insurance and life insurance are industries with vastly different time preferences, this is not a good thing for the life insurers because people just keep getting off the magic longevity drug and screwing up their predictions. Because, admittedly, it kind of sucks in the moment to be on. And I'm guessing jus…

Can you explain what sucks about being on the prescriptions?

I cant think of anything. I take 18 shots a week, including the GLP-1 shot once a week. I don't even notice it. I even give my wife her shot. Gotten to the point where I don't have a lot of belly fat to inject into so I have to lean forward but that's really it. I've never had a side effect from GLP-1. No nausea, nothing. Only side effect is I now have the will power not to kill a pint of ice-cream after 6pm. Its been 100% a willpower increase for me vs a physical change. Started in January at 240lbs. 210.8lbs as of this morning. Every ab is defined. Stuff is great, no idea why anyone would want to come off.

I can still eat whatever I want I just choose not to. For example, had burgers, fries and ice-cream for lunch on Saturday with the family and then just a protein shake for dinner.

I also don't snore anymore. I used to snore terribly, my wife would wake me up at least once a night to tell me to roll over. Not at all now.

Most importantly, even though I am on a ton of test and deca, my blood pressure is normal, and my cholesterol has actually gone down.

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How much does it cost right now? Are there any alternatives coming out soon or generics?

Liraglutide is now available as a generic, but it is the least effective of the big 3 (Semaglutide, Tirzepatide, Liraglutide): Basically, Tirz > Sema > Lira https://glp1.guide/content/semaglutide-vs-tirzepatide-clinic... https://glp1.guide/content/semaglutide-liraglutide-continue-... https://glp1.guide/content/another-generic-liraglutide-launc...

I used to be prescribed Victoza (for diabetes). When liraglutide (the generic) went off-patent, every pharmacy reported that both Victoza and liraglutide were "no longer available".

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I don't know how overweight you are, but could you not just reduce the dose to get fewer side effects & still have reasonable weight loss? & Did you try other GLP-1s?

I've lost 120 lbs from my peak weight. I have about 130 to go before I'm comfortable with my weight. I was severely overweight, now I'm just very overweight. I am at the second dose up from the starting dose (5 mg vs 2.5mg), and the side effects are about the same between the two doses. They didn't start out that way, but they ended up at about the same level of misery. I tried Trulicity when it first came out. It wa…

Good for you, that's incredible
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