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OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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So Google, Meta, and Microsoft will just hollow out the best AI startups of their talent instead of buying them - out of fear of monopoly lawsuits I'm assuming? Nice plan I guess. Kind of obvious to spot though.

This is the direct result of regulations. As usual regulations backfire. Expect more regulations to address this, surely they won’t backfire as well.

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On the flipside, I’m pretty sure the investors got screwed.

The investors made money too. The valuation at the last round was $1B, and Google paid them out at a valuation of $2.5B as part of the agreement [1]. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/2/24212348/google-hires-char...

To quote an analyst from the Dotcom bubble era: "Everbody's happy, everybody's making money, something's wrong here"

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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no. CC is not just a cli. Its cli + their pro/max plan. gemini cli is very expensive.

Isn't Gemini CLI 1000 requests/day free? https://blog.google/technology/developers/introducing-gemini...

Theoretically, practically it is riddled with rate limiting issues

https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/issues/1502

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> Pretty easy to hit $100 an hour I don’t see how that can be true, but if it is… Either you, or I are definitely use Claude Code incorrectly.

It’s definitely easy with an API key I hit 200$ in an evening. I didn’t think that could be possible. Horrifying

To be clear, this is a lot of full-scale reading and (re)writing, without any rules, promots, "agents"/code to limit your resource usage, right?

Nobody's asking for $200 in single-line diffs in less than a day - right?

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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are people viewing file diffs in the terminal? surely people aren't just vibing code changes in

Yes. I manually read the diff of every proposed change and manually accept or deny. I love CC, but letting it auto-write changes is, at best, a waste of time trying to find the bugs after they start compounding.

it seems like CC is king at the moment from what I read.

I currently have a Copilot subscription that has 4.1 for free but Sonnet 4 and Gemini Pro 2.5 with monthly limits. Thinking to switch to CC

I am curious to know which Claude Code subscription most people are using... ?

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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It’s definitely easy with an API key I hit 200$ in an evening. I didn’t think that could be possible. Horrifying

To be clear, this is a lot of full-scale reading and (re)writing, without any rules, promots, "agents"/code to limit your resource usage, right? Nobody's asking for $200 in single-line diffs in less than a day - right?

It’s not about a single line diff but the same prompts with cursor does not end costing that much

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Why are there actually only a few people in the world able to do this? The basic concept is out there. Lots of smart people studying hard to catch up to also be poached. No shortage of those I assume. Good trainingsdata still seems the most important to me. (and lots of hardware) Or does the specific training still involves lots of smart decisions all the time? And those small or big decisions make all the difference…

Why are there so few people in the world able to run 100m in sub 10s? The basic concept is out there: run very fast. Lots of people running every day who could be poached. No shortage of those I assume. Good running shoes still seem the most important to me.

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