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Nvidia won, we all lost

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Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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The games industry is now bigger than the movies industry. I think you're very wrong about this, as games are engaging in a way other consumption based media simply cannot replicate.

I played video games since I was a teenager. Loved them, was obsessed with them. Then sometime around 40 I just gave up. Not because of life pressure or lack of time but because I just started to find them really boring and unfulfilling. Now I’d much rather watch movies or read. I don’t know if the games changed or I changed.

I’m an ex-gamer, but I remember games in the 90’s and earlier 00’s being much more respecting of one’s time.

You could still sink a ton of time into it if you wanted do, but you could also crank out a decent amount of fun in 5-15 minutes.

Recently games seem to have been optimized to maximize play time rather than for fun density.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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What I experienced is that AI is a nightmare on AMD in Linux. There is a myriad of custom things that one needs to do, and even that just breaks after a while. Happened so much on my current setup (6600 XT) that I don't bother with local AI anymore, because the time investment is just not worth it. It's not that I can't live like this, I still have the same card, but if I were looking to do anything AI locally with a…

Are you referring to AI training, prediction/inference, or both? Could you give some examples for what had to be done and why? Thanks in advance.

Sure! I'm referring to setting up a1111's stable diffusion webui, and setting up Open WebUI.

Wrt/ a1, it worked at one point (a year ago) after 2-3 hours of tinkering, then regressed to not working at all, not even from fresh installs on new, different Linuxes. I tried the main branch and the AMD specific fork as well.

Wrt/ Open WebUI, it works, but the thing uses my CPU.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Proton has often better performance than gaming under Windows - partly because Linux is faster - so sure it can run those settings.

Interesting, thanks.

:) To give a source, https://www.computerbase.de/artikel/betriebssysteme/welche-l... is one. There was a more recent article the search is not showing me now.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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> With over 90% of the PC market running on NVIDIA tech, they’re the clear winner of the GPU race. The losers are every single one of us. I have been rocking AMD GPU ever since the drivers were upstreamed into the linux kernel. No regrets. I have also realized that there is a lot out there in the world besides video games, and getting all in a huff about it isn’t worth my time or energy. But consumer gotta consoooooo…

And even if you ignore AMD, most PCs being sold are cheap computers using whatever integrated hardware Intel is selling for graphics.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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To anyone who remembers econ 101 it's hard to read something like "scalper bots scoop up all of the new units as soon as they're launched" and not conclude that Nvidia itself is simply pricing the units they sell too low.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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> With over 90% of the PC market running on NVIDIA tech, they’re the clear winner of the GPU race. The losers are every single one of us. I have been rocking AMD GPU ever since the drivers were upstreamed into the linux kernel. No regrets. I have also realized that there is a lot out there in the world besides video games, and getting all in a huff about it isn’t worth my time or energy. But consumer gotta consoooooo…

I just learned MTG this year because my 11 year old son got into it. I like it. How did it “go to shit”?

Don’t let my opinion affect you, MTG is still a fun game and you should do that if you find it enjoyable — especially if your son likes it. But here is why I had a falling out:

1. The number of sets per year increased too much, there are too many cards being printed to keep up

2. Cards from new sets are pushed to be very strong (FIRE design) which means that the new cards are frequently the best cards. Combine this with the high number of new sets means the pool of best cards is always churning and you have to constantly be buying new cards to keep up.

3. Artificial scarcity in print runs means that the best cards in the new sets are very expensive. We are talking about cardboard here, it isn’t hard to simply print more sheets of a set.

4. The erosion of the brand identity and universe. MTG used to have a really nicely curated fantasy universe and things meshed together well. Now we have spongebob, deadpool, and a bunch of others in the game. It like if you put spongebob in the star wars universe, it just ruins the texture of the game.

5. Print quality of cards went way down. Older cards actually have better card stock than the new stuff.

6. Canadians MTG players get shafted. When a new set is printed stores get allocations of boxes (due to the artificial scarcity) and due to the lower player count in Canada, usually Canadian stores get much lower allocations than their USA counterparts. Additionally, MTG cards get double tariffs as they get printed outside of the USA, imported into the USA and tariffed, and then imported into Canada and tariffed again. I think the cost of MTG cards when up like 30-40% since global trade war.

Overall it boils down to hasbro turning the screws on players to squeeze more money, and I am just not having it. I already spent obscene amounts of money on the game before this all happened.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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This article goes much deeper than I expected, and is a nice recap of the last few years of "green" gpu drama. Liars or not, the performance has not been there for me in any of my usecases, from personal to professional. A system from 2017/2018 with an 8700K and an 8GB 2080 performs so closely to the top end, expensive systems today that it makes almost no sense to upgrade at MSRP+markup unless your system is older t…

> A system from 2017/2018 with an 8700K and an 8GB 2080 performs so closely to the top end, expensive systems today This is in no way true and is quite an absurd claim. Unless you meant for some specific isolated purposed restricted purely to yourself and your performance needs. > there are very few use cases I can think of needing more than a 30 series card right now. How about I like high refresh and high resolutio…

I have this exact CPU sans a 3090 (I started with 2080 but upgraded due to local AI needs). 8700k is perfectly fine for todays workloads. CPUs have stagnated and also the amount of RAM in systems has too (Apple still macbook air defaults of 8 GB in 2025??????)

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Why was the title of this post changed long after posting to something that doesn't match the article title? This editorializing goes directly against HN Guidelines (but was presumably done by the HN team?)

I think it's pretty obvious. People were investing like crazy into Nvidia on the "AI" gamble. Now everybody needs to keep hyping up Nvidia and AI no matter reality. (Until it starts to become obvious and then the selloff starts)

Literally every single anti-AI comment I see on this site uses a form of the word "hype". You cannot make an actual objective argument against the AI-wave predictions, so you use the word hype and pretend that's a real argument and not just ranting.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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> With over 90% of the PC market running on NVIDIA tech, they’re the clear winner of the GPU race. The losers are every single one of us. I have been rocking AMD GPU ever since the drivers were upstreamed into the linux kernel. No regrets. I have also realized that there is a lot out there in the world besides video games, and getting all in a huff about it isn’t worth my time or energy. But consumer gotta consoooooo…

I am not a gamer and don't why AMD GPUs aren't good enough. It's weird since both Xbox and PlayStation are using AMD GPUs. I guess there games that you can only play on PC with Nvidia graphics. That begs the question why someone create a game and ignore large console market.

A significant part of the vocal "gamers" is about being "the best" which translates into gpu benchmarking.

You don't get headlines and hype by being an affordable way to play games at a decent frame rate, you achieve it by setting New Fps Records.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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I think the reason you see things like Blizzard killing off Overwatch 1 is because the Lindy effect applies in gaming as well. Some things are so sticky and preferred that you have to commit atrocities to remove them from use. From a supply/demand perspective, if all of your customers are still getting high on the 5 (or 20) year old supply, launching a new title in the same space isn't going to work. There are not an…

From a business perspective, launching a game like Starcraft 2 at any time is a business catastrophe. There are obscure microtransactions in other Blizzard titles that have generated more revenue than Starcraft 2.

If SC2 was such a failure at any time, why bother with 3 expansions?

I think the biggest factors involve willingness to operate with substantially smaller margins and org charts.

It genuinely seemed like "Is this fun?" was actually a bigger priority than profit prior to the Activision merger.

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