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Tangentially on topic is there a programmatic way to export data from Whatsapp other than media? For example, if I would like to transition away from Whatsapp but would like to preserve old chats with friends that are no longer with us.
There’s something particularly paternalistic about this statement from the PM: “Your personal messages, calls and statuses, they will remain end-to-end encrypted”.
Messages from businesses are absolutely not private.
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I remember when Whatsapp became a paid app, I can’t remember the details as I believe they varied by platform (iOS vs Android) but it was either €0.79 or €0.99, I’m not sure if one off or yearly payment, but it doesn’t matter. I, as the “computer guy”, had friends and family asking how to pirate it. This is coming from SMS costing €0.25 per message (text only!) and also coming from people who would gladly pay €3 for…
> ... Whatsapp became a paid app ... it was either €0.79 or €0.99, I’m not sure if one off or yearly payment, but it doesn’t matter ... Interestingly, WhatsApp put up paid plans to slow down user acquisition [0]. On Androids, in some countries, WhatsApp continued to work even if you didn't pay the $1/year fee. [0] https://youtu.be/8-pJa11YvCs?t=952
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I remember when Whatsapp became a paid app, I can’t remember the details as I believe they varied by platform (iOS vs Android) but it was either €0.79 or €0.99, I’m not sure if one off or yearly payment, but it doesn’t matter. I, as the “computer guy”, had friends and family asking how to pirate it. This is coming from SMS costing €0.25 per message (text only!) and also coming from people who would gladly pay €3 for…
Similar situation as flights. People complain about lack of space, misc fees etc. But when it comes down to it, people for the most part, still pick the cheapest flight. I think the other factor is a bit of anchoring. I know this impacts me anyways. If there is a "free" alternative, then that's where I'm anchored at. I can watch youtube for free so paying for it seems like a bad deal. Where as there is no free altern…
This is true. One thing I note is that with the same dollar amount, you get even less legroom, luggage, etc. today than you used to back 10-15 years ago on traditional airlines. Granted the airline costs rose over time, but it's hard to imagine they went up to the scale traditional airfare has increased at equivalent service levels... Also the fact that things that used to be included are now considered "extra" looks like a good excuse for folks to complain about.
> The promotions will appear only in an area of the app called Updates, which is used by around 1.5 billion people a day Is that 1.5 billion people engaging with it, or 1.5 billion people seeing it because it's the first tab and then immediately switching to "Chats", the only useful tab in the app?
Chats is the default and first tab.
And people will still use it, that is why big techs get away pushing a lot of crappy into users. There was some wild change they wanted to push some time ago, users started mass migration away from it forcing them to abandon their insane plans. These companies only learn when the problem hits their pocket. I still have my social media accounts coz otherwise, hobbies and alike gets impossible to track. But I only acce…
You can upload videos from the web now; even Reels.
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Criticizing Signal for its crypto payment system is ridiculous. The option is totally optional and completely buried as it is literally the last option when messaging. It’s better to criticize the rule against third-party clients.
Both things are worthy of criticism. I'd ideally not use a messaging client that's embroidered in an ecosystem of cryptocurrency scams. Same reason I really don't like Brave even though its cryptocurrency BS is also "optional". It's erosive. But yeah, I might agree that the third party clients thing is a bigger issue. Especially when the official client insists on not officially supporting Linux on ARM64 and not play…
The frogs have been boiled enough by now gradually and very efficiently. They have been primed well. (In another news Signal still has focus on crytpo. Is this Firefox+Pocket level of stickiness and “we are right!”?).
It matters even more that Signal doesn't tolerate you using the client of your choice (like, one that doesn't push dark patterns and crypto in your face), or risk having your account suspended. It's time for people to wake up to the centralised platforms not having their users' best interests at heart. (And yes, my comments history has me extensively promote XMPP, no big secret here.)
Alice Newton-Rex, head of product at WhatsApp: “Alongside of private messaging, people were saying they wanted to hear more about topics, teams and organizations across WhatsApp.” - I am pretty sure NO ONE asked to hear about more topics and organizations across whatsapp.