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Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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Google hit the jackpot with their acquisition of YouTube and it's now paying dividend. YouTube is the largest single source of data and traffic on the Internet, and it's still growing fast. I think this data will prove incredibly important to robotics as well. It's a shame they sold Boston Dynamics in one of their dumbest ever moves because of bad PR.

I hear BD aren't making much money anyway so I wonder if they couldn't just buy them back for not much loss overall.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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Google hit the jackpot with their acquisition of YouTube and it's now paying dividend. YouTube is the largest single source of data and traffic on the Internet, and it's still growing fast. I think this data will prove incredibly important to robotics as well. It's a shame they sold Boston Dynamics in one of their dumbest ever moves because of bad PR.

Why should YouTube be here at the advantage? Every competitor also has access to these videos(?)

Google is making money hosting these videos, and users are freely uploading them. A competitor would have to scrape/download them, store them, process them all at their own cost, along with having much less metadata available (Which videos are most viewed, which segments, what do people repeat, what do people skip, what do people watch after this video, which video generates the most ad revenue, etc.)

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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Older people on social networks are cooked. I mean in general, we are entering an age where making scams and spreading false news will be easily done with 10$ of credits.

Yeah i fear that too, my grandma is already sending me links of AI animals that she thinks is real, and the horrible/beautiful art of facebook memes/holiday cards, seems to be completely overtaken by AI. We know that full fake video of you with your own voice asking for something or even interacting on a video call is basically solved problem. Prime time to reestablish and confirm trusted channels with the people you care about.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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The amount of gatekeeping I see when this topic is brought is outstanding! Why can't people be happy that more individuals would be soon able to create freely in a more accessible way? Personally I can't wait to see the new creative doors ai will open for us!

if I wasnt around to witness it over the last 10 years I would have thought most commenters on HN were bots pretending to be offended and gatekeeping for obscure profit motives. So the bad news is people are just insecure, jealous, pedantic, easy to offend, highly autistic - and these are the smart ones. The good news, is with dead internet theory they will all be replaced with bots that will atleast be more compelli…

God forbid people have an opinion

"Oh you're posting on hackernews, if you don't suck google's dick and every single gadgets megacorps shit out you must be highly autistic".... interesting take

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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This is technically impressive and I commend the team that brought it to life. It makes me sad, though. I wish we were pushing AI more to automate non-creative work and not burying the creatives among us in a pile of AI generated content.

The amount of gatekeeping I see when this topic is brought is outstanding! Why can't people be happy that more individuals would be soon able to create freely in a more accessible way? Personally I can't wait to see the new creative doors ai will open for us!

"happy", "free", "creative", "accessible"

What a weird way to spell "give $200 a month to google"

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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This is technically impressive and I commend the team that brought it to life. It makes me sad, though. I wish we were pushing AI more to automate non-creative work and not burying the creatives among us in a pile of AI generated content.

Do you find it sad that people can use recordings, and don't have to hire musicians any more?

That's step 1, we're at step 100, it looks like that now:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rtxJ0t8Cf6g

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wjaSPHRNfjQ

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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Has anyone cracked the nut of making videos longer than a few seconds though? No one seems to have made any progress on this. This is all nearly worthless until that is addressed.

I thought that for a while. Until it was pointed out to me that most long videos are made of 6 second shots. Generating a long video one shot at a time kind of makes sense, as long as there's good consistency between shots

I don’t care if the normies dont do long shots. The best movies have very long shots. Children of men or 1917. Until AI video gen can get past 5-10 second shots of slop, we won’t see any major critically acclaimed AI movies or related.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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Do they, though? Are competitors actually downloading all these videos? Supposedly there are 5 billion videos on YouTube ( https://seo.ai/blog/how-many-videos-are-on-youtube ), downloading all of that is a LOOOOT of data and time. I mean, you could limit yourself to the most popular or most interesting 100 million, but that's still an enormous amount of data to download.

Just wanted to mention the latter, you don’t need all videos. It’s indeed a lot of data but doable so I am not sure if I would count this as big advantage.

You are incredibly naive if you don’t see full, unrestricted access to YT as an advantage.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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An indie film with poor production values, even bad acting can grip you, make you laugh and make you cry. The consistency of quality is key - even if it is poor. The directing is the red thread throughout the scenes. Anything with different quality levels interrupts your flow and breaks your experience. The problem with AI video content at this stage is that the clips are very good 'in themselves', just as LLM result…

You don't need to make an entire movie out of this. One or two scenes that are difficult or impossible to film on a certain budget is enough to lift the production value of a movie. One can use this as CGI replacement, for example to produce a couple seconds scene of an ancient city and stretch that out with fake panning.

You can also use it as a communication tool such as making a "live" storyboard to prep location, blocking, maybe even as notes for actors.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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if I wasnt around to witness it over the last 10 years I would have thought most commenters on HN were bots pretending to be offended and gatekeeping for obscure profit motives. So the bad news is people are just insecure, jealous, pedantic, easy to offend, highly autistic - and these are the smart ones. The good news, is with dead internet theory they will all be replaced with bots that will atleast be more compelli…

God forbid people have an opinion "Oh you're posting on hackernews, if you don't suck google's dick and every single gadgets megacorps shit out you must be highly autistic".... interesting take

This is objectively one of the most autistic websites on the internet. Likely worse than 4chan /g/. Just as dang and PG like it though!
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