Does anyone know of a tool that can e2e + collaboration (or in other words: notion but e2e)?
We're building https://thymer.com/ to do this. Real-time collaboration, local-first + end-to-end-encrypted (and optionally self-hosted).
Ditching Obsidian and building my own
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Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own
#442> But I felt frustrated when I wanted to access my notes on my phone while on-the-go and saw that I had to pay for this feature. Obsidian charges $8 a month to access the same notes across multiple devices. Errm, no? Obsidian sync is optional. I pay for it to support them, but my main vaults are all synced by iCloud, which was auto set-up by Obisidan during initial setup on my iPhone . On the Android side, any servic…
Not practical if you want to also sync with non-Apple devices.
[0] https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud-windows/what-is-iclou...
Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own
#443Good article but as a heavy user of Obsidian (and previously Evernote), I would offer some counterpoints: > After some mental gymnastics weighing if I should continue with Obsidian, I found solace when asking myself "Can I see myself using this in 20 years?". I couldn't. The thought of cyclically migrating notes from one PKMS to another every 5 years, as I had done from Evernote to Notion to Obsidian, made me feel ti…
I'm migrating what's in Evernote to Gmail because the "upgrade to premium" popups are too tricky and the value of Evernote just isn't worth the subscription unless you're relying heavily on it, which I can't because of the popups.
Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own
#444Good article but as a heavy user of Obsidian (and previously Evernote), I would offer some counterpoints: > After some mental gymnastics weighing if I should continue with Obsidian, I found solace when asking myself "Can I see myself using this in 20 years?". I couldn't. The thought of cyclically migrating notes from one PKMS to another every 5 years, as I had done from Evernote to Notion to Obsidian, made me feel ti…
> In point of fact this is actually an argument IN FAVOR of Obsidian. While the editor might be proprietary - the notes themselves are just standard markdown. If somehow all the copies of Obsidian magically disappeared off the earth tomorrow, I could easily switch over to Emacs org mode, VS Code, or literally anything else. Not really.. This problem runs far deeper than most are willing to see. First, Obsidian is usi…
I could see the dataview plugin as an example (even though I don't use that one personally) but most other plugins seem like they just add more convenient ways to do something that would be still pretty simple to do manually. (Templates for example).
Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own
#445Earlier quoted context omitted.
Works if you are in the Apple ecosystem entirely. I have read there are difficulties if you want to sync to a non Apple device under this approach
This is one of the reasons I use a git repo along with iCloud. Anyway, using iCloud across 4+ Apple devices has not been a problem in general.
Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own
#446Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also Obsidian asks for permissions to read files in all of the device on Android. They don't explain clearly why that is necessary. I don't see it being discussed that widely. Also another aspect is that many people seems to think Obsidian is open source, while it is not so.
Not anymore. As of Obsidian 1.8.10 you can use app storage which doesn't require additional permissions. It's explained here: https://help.obsidian.md/android
They prefer that the users use the less secure option.
Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own
#447Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. It true since the argument about formats. You can limit storage of open format to the cloud as well. > and newer releases of certain apps remove the export functionality. Then you'd just use the old release with the export functionality intact. You can also make up stuff like "Obsidian can release an app that deletes/encrypts all local files, retaining only the cloud copy, and start charging for it without having…
I don't really know what we're disagreeing on. > This isn't markdown, but markdown + dozens of extensions, Yes, if the way you use Obsidian includes dozens of extensions that each use a proprietary format, then it's similar to just using Evernote in many ways. If you're mostly using plain markdown with only a few custom formats, then it's still easier. If today, right now, Obsidian stopped working, I could literally…
No, at your accepted level of the loss of functionality that would be trivial.
- Launch the app you already have, export
- Launch another app, import. Could be Obsidian. Here is their guide. https://help.obsidian.md/import/evernote
- Open results in VSCode and ignore the 10% lost in conversion
> I just don't know how you can claim that Obsidian is more effort to use outside of Obsidian than something proprietary.Because at every step you trivialize one option and complicate the other. While they're generically equivalent. All the same things apply...
> If you're mostly using plain
If you're mostly using plain notes in Evernote, then your conversion to the same plain markdown will be trivial, so using another plain markdown isn't easier
Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own
#448Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're building https://thymer.com/ to do this. Real-time collaboration, local-first + end-to-end-encrypted (and optionally self-hosted).
Cool. May I ask how you implement the collaborative e2e? Do you encrypt the content multiple times - once for every user?
Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own
#449Re: Ditching Obsidian and building my own
#450Earlier quoted context omitted.
Syncthing... It can do it too handles syncing my pictures too
Wasn't the syncthing android app deprecated relatively recently?