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Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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> Gun utility: small For you.

Assuming you have high utility for guns, what do you use it for? Hunting? I'm no hunter and have never felt like I need a gun.

> what do you use it for?

recreational shooting. Though that's not exactly high utility

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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That's just drivers normalising the breaking of the speed limits. If you raise the limits just because drivers are going faster, then the drivers will just increase their speeds until again, a majority of drivers are breaking the limit. Speed limits should be defined to reduce the harm from the inevitable crashes e.g. we have a lot of 20mph limits here in the UK in cities such as Bristol which are designed to reduce…

I dislike how you think. When I drive, 99% of the time it's to get someplace, not go for a Sunday cruise. The better alternative is ongoing driver training beyond initial study.

That's the US philosophy and it's why road deaths per mile are so bad there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in...

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Another half-measure that will be disabled by aftermarket kits. If people want to go fast, they will.

If its court mandated, basically its pretty much up to you to get the device and plug it in. https://lifesaferisa.com/court-mandated/

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Speed limiters built into cars. Anti-infringement technology built into general-purpose computers. And yet, guns and ammo freely available and unrestricted outside of automatic weapons and the like? Yeah. Can’t wait to move off-grid someday. (Yes, obviously American) I’ve got enough sense to keep it slow and safe in populated areas, yet occasionally open it up elsewhere when conditions are right. Guess that’s another…

Speeding kills much more people than guns. It also kills much more innocent outsiders (a lot of gun death are suicides or gang infightings). It also introduces atmosphere of terror on public roads making walking or cycling dangerous. It's a way bigger problem than guns.

>a lot of gun death are suicides or gang infightings

Oh, that's OK then, they clearly don't matter.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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The problem is people who as matter of course travel above the speed limit regardless of if any other motorists are around them, as they are “playing by different rules”, making them more unpredictable and stressful for those around them. Just two days ago I did a long distance trip and in general I could engage cruise control at the speed limit allowing me to focus more on other potential hazards around me. Occasion…

The question is, if everyone is speeding, would it not make sense to raise the speed limit?

KE = ½mv² shows that kinetic energy is directly proportional to the mass of an object and proportional to the square of its velocity. This means that doubling the mass doubles the kinetic energy, but doubling the velocity quadruples the kinetic energy.

The kinetic energy of an 1800 kg car traveling at 30 km/h is about 62.5 kJ

The kinetic energy of an 1800 kg car traveling at 50 km/h is about 173.6 kJ

The kinetic energy of an 1800 kg car traveling at 70 km/h is about 340.1 kJ...

If your only consideration is getting to your destination very few minutes sooner with complete disregard for other peoples health it makes perfect sense, but cars are dangerous and at anything but completely isolated roads it makes sense to lower speed limits since the average speed wouldn't drop significantly while improving safety for everyone.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

#446

Speed limiters built into cars. Anti-infringement technology built into general-purpose computers. And yet, guns and ammo freely available and unrestricted outside of automatic weapons and the like? Yeah. Can’t wait to move off-grid someday. (Yes, obviously American) I’ve got enough sense to keep it slow and safe in populated areas, yet occasionally open it up elsewhere when conditions are right. Guess that’s another…

>And yet, guns and ammo freely available and unrestricted outside of automatic weapons and the like?

They are not. This is a very common misconception. I suggest you go purchase one at a gun store.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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Yet another regulation to control people. Taking your freedom away one law at a time... Can't imagine what life in 2050 will look like. By that point, you will have a mandated government inspector living in your home to make sure you comply

Its pretty clear at this point that people want this kind of control implemented, its in the ”zeitgeist”. I have not figured out why, but it does seem that people are more scared then ever.

Its a bit weird on HN where people generally understand this problem regarding privacy, but in other topics like this one they act like the general populace ”put the speeders in jail!”

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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I don’t get that. Repeat offender => temporary removal of driving license. Done. You can make it progressive, remove it for a week, next time 3, etc. I guarantee this will calm people down.

The problem is, at least in Virginia, every single speed limit is set low, and cops randomly pull over cars that are just traveling the same speed as the cars around them, all above the speed limit. So license removal is not really fair. Not that this is any better, but if you at least get to keep driving legally, its generally slightly less worse.

Just because everybody else is doing it doesn't mean you have to as well.

Re: Virginia passes law to enforce maximum vehicle speeds for repeat speeders

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post #436

Yet another regulation to control people. Taking your freedom away one law at a time... Can't imagine what life in 2050 will look like. By that point, you will have a mandated government inspector living in your home to make sure you comply

The inspector will be AI btw :) (and the year 203x..)
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