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Re: Bored of It

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post #404

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There's no discussion happening, though! They're just repeating themselves over and over and ignoring the contents of any replies.

Because the replies ignore the contents of my replies, weird isnt it

Counter perspective: you deflect instead of answering direct questions, which is more like talking at people instead of having dialogue.

Re: Bored of It

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post #126
post #56

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AI is very open source and very commercialized at the same time. I don't understand your comment.

> AI is very open source ML ecosystem tends to be very open source, true, LLMs a bit less so. So far there are only a few useful open source models (mostly courtesy of Chinese companies), otherwise a lot of the models are either hidden behind paid APIs or falsely marketed as open source but come attached with terms and conditions, use policies, forbidden uses, requires signing agreements upfront and so on.

So like any other commercial cloud based system.

Re: Bored of It

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post #126
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is very open source and very commercialized at the same time. I don't understand your comment.

> AI is very open source ML ecosystem tends to be very open source, true, LLMs a bit less so. So far there are only a few useful open source models (mostly courtesy of Chinese companies), otherwise a lot of the models are either hidden behind paid APIs or falsely marketed as open source but come attached with terms and conditions, use policies, forbidden uses, requires signing agreements upfront and so on.

There is Gemma from Google and various niche models as well. I have not tried to measure exact amount of Chinese vs other, but I guess it is not mainly Chinese.

Re: Bored of It

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> The best minds of my generation I’m tired of that line. I remember first seeing it on “the best minds of our generation being employed to sell you ads”. Making a computer go brrr doesn’t qualify anyone for a “best mind”. I’d hope a “best mind” would be, above all, empathetic. Concerned about the well being of their fellow humans. Philosophical about the state of the world. Patient. Curious. Wise and not just smart.…

I had always supposed that one was supposed to recognize a borrowing from Allen Ginsberg's "Howl": https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/49303/howl

(Not that I'd automatically accept Ginsberg's evaluation of best minds.)

Re: Bored of It

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AI is very open source ML ecosystem tends to be very open source, true, LLMs a bit less so. So far there are only a few useful open source models (mostly courtesy of Chinese companies), otherwise a lot of the models are either hidden behind paid APIs or falsely marketed as open source but come attached with terms and conditions, use policies, forbidden uses, requires signing agreements upfront and so on.

There is Gemma from Google and various niche models as well. I have not tried to measure exact amount of Chinese vs other, but I guess it is not mainly Chinese.

> There is Gemma from Google

Not even Google calls Gemma "open source", nor would anyone with knowledge of "open source" call those models that. If something requires signing an agreement before downloading and/or have a list of prohibited use cases, it's most likely not open source.

Re: Bored of It

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post #17

> The best minds of my generation I’m tired of that line. I remember first seeing it on “the best minds of our generation being employed to sell you ads”. Making a computer go brrr doesn’t qualify anyone for a “best mind”. I’d hope a “best mind” would be, above all, empathetic. Concerned about the well being of their fellow humans. Philosophical about the state of the world. Patient. Curious. Wise and not just smart.…

You reminded me of one of my favorite piece of media in gaming (HZD). It feels especially relevant in the current times, with how war and AI is progressing in tandem with geopolitical unrest.

Its an old recording that the main character listens to in the end cutscene while visiting Elisabet's grave, and (spoilers) the main character was created as a clone of Elisabet. It's very hard hitting after the whole experience.

> GAIA: Query: What did she say?

Elisabet Sobeck: She said I had to care. She said, "Elisabet, being smart will count for nothing if you don't make the world better. You have to use your smarts to count for something, to serve life, not death."

GAIA: You often tell stories of your mother. But you are childless.

Elisabet Sobeck: I never had time. I guess it was for the best.

GAIA: If you had had a child, Elisabet, what would you have wished for him or her?

Elisabet Sobeck: I guess... I would have wanted her to be... curious. And willful - unstoppable, even... but with enough compassion to... heal the world... just a little bit.

Re: Bored of It

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post #433

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I'm kind of puzzled. I've been interested in AI for ~45 years and read quite a lot of the stuff on HN and similar. I'm not aware of any of that being pushed on me by a corporate overlord? I'll give you there is more hype and money these days. However I also read Kurzweil / Moravec stuff which has been predicting human level intelligence around now since at least 1990 and that to me is the interesting bit, and not rea…

You must not work in big tech, then. At my company, AI-companion tools were forcibly installed in everyone’s browser, soon followed by a press release parading how “100% of people at our company now use AI because it’s so great”. Attempts to uninstall the tool are explicitly blocked. Similarly, AI coding tools are forcibly installed in IDEs. Every single hackathon or team workshop has been turned into a AI-specific h…

Ah fair enough. I don't work in tech.

Re: Bored of It

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that was a waste of time to read. I'm glad it was short. "I'm bored of all the talk and conversation that other ppl find extremely interesting, new, revolutionary, mind-blowing, etc"...like... okay? Well no one is forcing him to do anything. He should go outside, go to the gym, go to a bar, go to a library, read a book, there is literally an infinite number of productive things he could have done instead of whine online about how he's "bored" of the (by everyone else's account) insane happenings in the world(s) of the things(s) that he so "cleverly" was able to describe without actually saying "its" name. Hopefully he has a change of attitude and retracts his pointless, bitter rant.

Re: Bored of It

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post #429

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That too. If all/most labor is automated, humans will be free from the 9 to 5 grind. Products will be cheap or free.

That's never going to happen... when has that ever happened?

When most labor is automated, population will not have a source of income. That's the only way that I see.
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