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Post by saurik »

wongarsu wrote: post #299
nilkn wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of OpenAI's announcements seem to be timed almost perfectly as responses to other events in the industry or market. I think Sam just likes to keep the company in the news and the cultural zeitgeist, and he doesn't really care if what he's announcing is ready to scale to users yet or not.

To be fair, being in the cultural zeitgeist is a huge part of their current moat. To people in the street OpenAI is the company making LLMs. Sam has to make sure it stays that way

I fully understand why they do it, and yet I choose to interpret it as blatantly lying. (To be clear I mean the thing where OpenAI seems to announce things relating to news cycles without actually having the thing working yet; I don't mind a limited rollout. But like, that Advanced Voice demo they did--which was clearly just to take some thunder from Google--not only took a long time to get into the hands of anyone, it is nowhere near as good as their demo claimed or made it out to be.)

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by 13_9_7_7_5_18 »

AcquiescentWolf wrote: post #242
bryan0 wrote: post #117

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> Web search is available now in feature preview for all paid Claude users in the United States. Support for users on our free plan and more countries is coming soon.

People outside the US obviously don't exist, therefore the statement is correct.

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Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by tgtweak »

simonw wrote: post #168
tgtweak wrote: post #97

Feels like a catch-up feature to chatgpt... honestly the biggest holdback for me on anthropic is the output token limit on sonnet... 8000 tokens max output is really limited (and 200k tokens in) compared to other offerings - especially considering that I suspect most sonnet users are not chat-users but api users.

The output limit of Claude 3.7 Sonnet Thinking is much higher (128,000): https://simonwillison.net/2025/Feb/25/llm-anthropic-014/#a-m...

This is actually very helpful to me! Thanks for posting!

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by NewJazz »

dewey wrote: post #399
NewJazz wrote: post #100

Bizarre that they choose to publish this right as a thread criticizing AI crawlers gets bumped off the front page. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43422413

There’s so many news about anything “AI” at any given moment that there will never be a perfect moment.

But this feature directly contributes to the problem in the article I linked.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by SamPatt »

PickledChris wrote: post #220
Workaccount2 wrote: post #202

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It's kinda like online games. Most people who play a game are not too great at it, a large subset is pretty good, and then it's smaller and smaller groups as the ability increases. At the top you get the people who are true pros, they write the books, the guides, they solve the hardest problems, and everyone looks up to them. But spin the wheel and get a random SWE to do some work? It's not gonna be far off from an r…

https://danluu.com/p95-skill/ Continues to apply

>Just for example, if you're a local table tennis hotshot who can beat every rando at a local bar, when you challenge someone to a game and they say "sure, what's your rating?" you know you're in for a shellacking by someone who can probably beat you while playing with a shoe brush (an actual feat that happened to a friend of mine, BTW). You're probably 99%-ile, but someone with no talent who's put in the time to practice the basics is going to have a serve that you can't return as well as be able to kill any shot a local bar expert is able to consitently hit.

And it's very easy to forget when you're the guy going to the club just how bad most regular players are.

I'm in a table tennis club, my rating is solidly middle of the pack, and so I see myself as an average player. But the author is correct, I would destroy any casual player. I almost never play casual players, though.

Not sure how applicable this is to software engineering.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by klabb3 »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #403
klabb3 wrote: post #368

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Fake it til you make it vibes. I understand why he would do it, what I find strange is that it inspires confidence in the market.

You can wait to release something all over the world which will take time because it’s not an engineering issue but a compliance/legal or other types of issue. Or you can iterate faster by doing the minimum and getting feedback and then releasing it in other markets. Not sure what’s wrong with this approach.

That’s fair, but I was referring to releasing in response to external events. It’s very clear they are trying to one-up each other and create hype, vagueposting etc. I don’t think sama is alone in this but everyone especially from the Thiel school of thought.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by eru »

_heimdall wrote: post #131
yoyohello13 wrote: post #125

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The longer I've been in the workforce, the more I realize most humans actually kind of suck at their jobs. LLMs being more human like is the opposite of what I want.

That could very well be because the jobs are effectively useless. By no means does that mean the people are, nor is what the income allows them to do. But most jobs sure do seem pointless.

> But most jobs sure do seem pointless.

Do you include the private sector?

Why do corporations engage in this kind of charity? Do we need more competition?

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by blooalien »

_heimdall wrote: post #376
nyarlathotep_ wrote: post #331

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YES, this is exactly the case and why the Twitter layoffs and now the "DOGE" purge is a terrible thing (even in cases where it was totally legitimate to eliminate "waste"). "They had useless make-work jobs and sent 4 emails a week and watched TikToks the rest of the time" So? There's FAR too many people and nowhere near enough jobs for a large portion of people to do something that is both "real", and provides actual…

We should be striving to build a world where people don't have to feel forced into meaningless jobs, not a system that encourages it. If meaningless jobs are important because its the only way people can make money to pay for all the shit we think we need to pay for, or because they haven't yet been offered the time and freedom to find their own sense of purpose, let's focus on fixing the root cause(s) there.

> _heimdall: We should be striving to build a world where people don't have to feel forced into meaningless jobs, not a system that encourages it.

> If meaningless jobs are important because its the only way people can make money to pay for all the shit we think we need to pay for, or because they haven't yet been offered the time and freedom to find their own sense of purpose, let's focus on fixing the root cause(s) there.

^^^ 100% yes! That! ^^^

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

_2d30 wrote: post #39
NBJack wrote: post #10

I wonder if it will actually respect the robots.txt this time.

I don't think it should. If a user asks the AI to read the web for them, it should read the web for them. This isn't a vacuum charged with crawling the web, it's an adhoc GET request.

Someday I’ll have enough “karma” to downvote things like this.

The agent should respect robots.txt no matter who is using the Robot.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by parentheses »

ornornor wrote: post #288
agrippanux wrote: post #282

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I had a similar conversation with my CEO today - how does the incoming crop of college grads deal with the fact AI can do a lot of entry level jobs? This is especially timely for me as my son is about to enter college. So I ended up posing the question to Claude and the response was “figure out how to work with me or pick a field I can’t do” which was pretty much a flex.

Paradoxically, the hardest jobs to automate are physical jobs it seems. A white collar worker is threatened by AI, blue collar not as much. I can totally envision AI software engineers (they’re already okay if you check their work), but as of yet there are no AI plumbers or mechanics. Maybe there won’t be, given the costs associated why producing physical machines vs software ones.

It's just a matter of time. Your statement assumes AI won't help to develop robotics.

Robotics is the big unlock of AI since the world is continuous and messy; not discrete. Training a massively complex equation to handle this is actually a really good approach.

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