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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

graemep wrote: post #383
ajmurmann wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your goal is to reduce illegal immigration, a much cheaper way is to heavily fine anyone who employs someone without a valid work permit. For most illegal immigrants the motivation is economic and this would reduce that motivation and bring in money from the fines instead of incurring massive cost from detention and deportation without the negative side effect (?) of deterring tourists and legal immigrants. (Of co…

The UK does fine employers, its not sufficient to stop it because people work through dodgy contractors. The UK also fines landlords which has caused problems for people who look or sound foreign, including some British citizens (especially poor ones who tend not to have passports which are the easiest documents to check). The best proposal I have heard is to provide a cash reward to illegal immigrants for turning in…

Yeah, it's totally doable for the US to deport all the illegal immigrants. The consequences would most likely be pretty high inflation, but it's totally doable.

While I dislike the UK requirement to have a passport on your first day at work, I understand why it exists.

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Post by blindriver »

otikik wrote: post #334
blindriver wrote: post #314

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>Trump has been anti-war (with Putin, specifically) since his first term. Yes, that's my point. > The Democratic party has never been anti-free trade either. They absolutely were anti-free trade and protectionist during the 1970s and 1980s. For example, they were the ones who were leading efforts against Japanese cars in the US that decimated Detroit during that time. Clinton and more importantly Obama changed this s…

> during the 1970s and 1980s If we go back long enough, the democratic party opposed Abraham Lincoln. We have to put a line somewhere. > According to Biden To be clear, I'm not a US citizen. If you think telling me that Biden lied is a shocker, you are wrong. I do think that in general he lies less than Trump, though. But to answer the spirit of your not-in-very-good-faith question: GDP means nothing if all the wealt…

I'm putting a line at the 1970s and 1980s and then explained how things changed immediately after that and that's when they started abandoning the working class.

> If you think telling me that Biden lied is a shocker, you are wrong.

I'm not saying you should be shocked. I'm giving strong evidence that your assertion that the economy was bad is wrong. What is your proof that the economy was bad?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by metabagel »

transcriptase wrote: post #214
BizarreByte wrote: post #176

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Again I do not care. The US has done more than enough to instill fear in Canadians like me. Would you travel to a country where its leader is constantly making threats against your country, some as serious as repeatedly calling for your annexation? The current US administration has made it very clear how it feels about me and my countrymen. I don't consider the US safe and I do not need someone to americansplain to m…

I am Canadian. I’ve been to the U.S. a hundred times and nothing has really changed to make me blink at continuing to go. I have friends and family who work and vacation there, and it’s the same for them as it’s always been. The Canadian media and Canadian businesses have been drumming up fear and patriotic rhetoric to drive domestic industries. That’s great - the last 10 years of “Canada is a post-national state wit…

Dude, if you have a tattoo that looks questionable, you literally could be deported to a concentration camp in El Salvador. Granted, maybe you are white, and that might be the one thing which saves you.

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Post by ToValueFunfetti »

diggan wrote: post #227
ajkjk wrote: post #143

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yeah no it hasn't

Isn't the bible involved in the whole inauguration part? Besides, candidates routinely discuss their faith, and "In God We Trust" appears on the currency. Edit: Hah, I just realized that congressional sessions open with prayer as well. Not sure what other countries does this?

The bible is involved at the behest of the inauguree; we've had christian presidents, and so they've largely sworn in on the bible. John Quincy Adams used a book of laws, and Coolidge didn't use a book at all (there are a couple others, but they were unintentional).

Likewise, the US prayer is non-denominational (it typically is monotheistic though). Ireland, Canada, South Africa, and the UK also have parliamentary prayers.

UK currency often features the letters "D.G.", which are the initials to a latin phrase meaning "by the grace of God", but other European currency references to God have ended with the switch to the Euro.

The US certainly has above average entanglement of religiosity and governance, but hardly in a sense that makes it a theocracy. Politicians talking about faith and God is a very different thing from, eg, the country being run by the pope.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by huskyr »

elicash wrote: post #180
drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

One thing I'm keeping an eye on is if Canada eventually updates its travel advisory warning for the United States https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states (Currently still at 'normal precautions')

Germany apparently is already warning trans and non-binary people when travelling to the US: https://www.advocate.com/news/germany-warns-transgender-trav...

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by everfrustrated »

elorm wrote: post #54

This whole debacle scares me. It’s almost impossible to figure out the official reason she was flagged by the first border officer. She had a prior denial for a work visa. Then flew into San Diego to apply the second time and got it. Apparently, she should’ve applied via her consulate instead because of the prior denial ? Can someone explain in non legal terms why this resulted in a visa revocation and detention?

If you've previously been denied a visa you're no longer able to use the visa on arrival system. Hence you need to apply for a visa before you travel.

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Post by apwell23 »

Filligree wrote: post #361
I-M-S wrote: post #147

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I am a dual-nation Canadian, with the other nationality held in much lower regard by the USA administration, meaning American conduct toward much of the world is not news to me. I believe a lot of resentment Canadians currently feel towards Americans boils down to being treated the way they treat any other undesirable country.

…and the potential invasion? I’d be worried about that in your place. I’m worried about that as a Norwegian.

most ppl in canada ( and usa) don't know where Norway is or if such a country actually exists.

why are you worried about someone who doesn't give a fuck about norway.

Why can't Norwegians mind their own business why is this so offensive to them that americans don't want to be friends with norway. totally entitled . " how dare you don't want to be friends, we are white too"

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by blindriver »

wk_end wrote: post #392
blindriver wrote: post #146

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Are you suggesting that Swiss border patrol would have been more forgiving if I were illegally entering their country?

Well, she wasn't illegally entering the United States, so that's sort of moot.

She was. You didn't even do a modicum of research. She co-founded a hemp drink company in California and then self-assigned her own TN visa through the company she founded, which isn't allowed. Her visa was actually illegal and then she was found upon subsequent crossing. She tried to reapply and this time she was detained.

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Post by apwell23 »

Filligree wrote: post #358
apwell23 wrote: post #51

> There were around 140 of us in our unit. Many women had lived and worked in the US legally for years but had overstayed their visas – often after reapplying and being denied. They had all been detained without warning. Yet they chose to feature this white person from a white country. This article reminds of beginning of ukraine war when US press was showing white ppl and saying "we need to stand with them because t…

They told this woman’s story because she was the one who escaped. The ones who are still being tortured aren’t available to be interviewed.

yea only one person ever "escaped".
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