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Gemini Robotics

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Re: Gemini Robotics

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The problem with Google is that their ad business brings so much revenue that no other product makes sense. They will use whatever they learn with robots to raise their ad revenue, somehow.

Waymo seems to be a counter example here

Waymo took 15 years and $30B to develop and is still unprofitable. By the time they make their money back it'll probably be too late.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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It's funny that we are at a point where "visual detection" is not considered AI anymore.

Using AI for image recognition is to visual detection as Orange Juice is to beverages.

Sure. What they will call AI [an unspecified number of years in the future] will be compared similarly the the SOTA AI models.

For long time the term "artificial intelligence" has just gone out of favour, but I do remember the days where a good AI research lab had a bunch of symbolics lisp machines

Re: Gemini Robotics

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I am not sure whether the videos are representative of real life performance or it is a marketing stunt but sure looks impressive. Reminds of the robot arm in Iron Man 1.

i thought it was really cool when it picked up the grapes by the vine edit: it didn't.

And how it just dropped the grapes, as well as the banana. If they were real fruits, you wouldn't want that to happen.

Re: Gemini Robotics

#444

The problem with Google is that they keep putting out "videos" but almost ship an actual product. I'm not sure what's the end goal of this other than "get some people excited" or "justify R&D spend to shareholders". This is a great achievement and I'm not underestimating the work of the people involved. But similar videos have been put together by many research labs and startups for years now. I feel like Google's a…

Both models mentionned in the article are available, Gemini robotics for partners only, and Gemini robotics ER in private preview.

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It isn't. I mean, that depends on what "low level code" means. We have compilers so, to an extent, it's something desirable. But if "low level code" means everything we understand as code today, it may not be great. Human languages aren't precise enough for the kind of work that needs to be done. But let's say it's accomplished. What will end up happening is that AI (should it work to the extent it's been hyper) will…

The physical labor will be for the robots in the video. We'll probably spend all day consuming media and socializing. Thats the optimistic view of course.

I have a million and one things I want to accomplish but can't due to lack of time and energy as I work full time.

This includes reading, gardening, playing sports, learning to play the piano, etc. Of course some of that is consuming media, but I don't think people will just become couch potatoes.

Think of all the things "high society" accomplished in Victorian england because they had the time, energy and resources.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

i thought it was really cool when it picked up the grapes by the vine edit: it didn't.

And how it just dropped the grapes, as well as the banana. If they were real fruits, you wouldn't want that to happen.

I remember a cartoon where a quality inspection guy smashes bananas with a "certified quality" stamp before they go into packaging.

Re: Gemini Robotics

#447

The upshot of this is that anyone will be able to order a couple of robot arms from China and then set them up in a garage, programming them with just text, like we do with LLMs now. Time to think bigger.

Or put a few 6 axis arms on a track that goes throughout a home and have an instant home assistants

Those tracks could be at the ceiling. Imagine a robot arm in a kitchen that is dangling from the ceiling. It could be helping when needed and disappear in a cupboard after that.

Re: Gemini Robotics

#448

The upshot of this is that anyone will be able to order a couple of robot arms from China and then set them up in a garage, programming them with just text, like we do with LLMs now. Time to think bigger.

> programming them with just text

Isn't programming just text anyway ?

Re: Gemini Robotics

#449

Hope they can offer this to robot vacuums with arms. Tidying up right now before vacuuming is a huge chore (kids stuff). Fuck it, make the arms big enough and it can do laundry, load/unload dishwasher, clean up after cooking/eating. I can finally see this happening. Probably Tesla first tho.

https://global.roborock.com/pages/roborock-saros-z70 ?
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