Microsoft is plotting a future without OpenAI

Post by bdangubic » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 1:29 PM UTC

scarface_74 wrote: post #322

bdangubic wrote: post #316

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Teslas are consistently rated high in customer satisfaction, but after several years of low ratings from top authorities in the industry, their reliability is undoubtedly in question. This is too funny to post alongside saying “Tesla has never been a good product.” Like “everyone that bought it loves it be car expert Joe from South Dakota ranks them very low.” Common sense also runs very much against this nonsense na…

You did see the link quoted from consumer reports? Are they not a reliable source? On another note, Apple also sold millions of MacBooks with butterfly keyboards. And Tesla sells are declining, losing market share worldwide and sells 1/5 the number of cars as Toyota

Post by _giorgio_ » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 4:11 PM UTC

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Clearly you don't use models so much. Even in the openAI ecosystem there are models that, while similar in theory, produce very different results, so much that some murderous are unusable. So even small differences translate to enormous differences.

I use AI everyday for work, mostly models from OpenAI, Anthropic and DeepSeek. In my experience none of them completely dominate the others. You seem to disagree strongly but then just state your argument, which model or company do you think is the clear leader currently and why? The AI race is super close and interesting at the moment in my opinion.

Post by bagacrap » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 4:27 PM UTC

optimalsolver wrote: post #92

asciii wrote: post #42

Clear as day when he said this during the openai fiasco: "we have the people, we have the compute, we have the data, we have everything. we are below them, above them, around them." -- satya nadella

Sounds like just the kind of person you'd want in command of a powerful AGI.

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 7:28 PM UTC

testplzignore wrote: post #188

> OpenAI’s models, including GPT-4, the backbone of Microsoft’s Copilot assistant, aren’t cheap to run. Keeping them live on Azure’s cloud infrastructure racks up significant costs, and Microsoft is eager to lower the bill with its own leaner alternatives. Am I reading this right? Does Microsoft not eat its own dog food? Their own infra is too expensive?

Post by pklausler » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 7:44 PM UTC

bsimpson wrote: post #34

only-one1701 wrote: post #22

Maybe I'm just cynical, but I wonder how much of this initiative and energy is driven by people at Microsoft who want their own star to rise higher than it can when it's bound by a third-party technology. I feel like this is something I've seen a fair amount in my career. About seven years ago, when Google was theoretically making a big push to stage Angular on par with React, I remember complaining that the document…

There is a prominent subset of the tech crowd who are ladder climbers - ruthlessly pursuing what is rewarded with pay/title/prestige without regard to actually making good stuff. There are countless kidding-on-the-square jokes about projects where the innovators left at launch and passed it off to the maintenance team, or where a rebrand was in pursuit of someone's promo project. See also, killedbygoogle.com.