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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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It's literally illegal. In the EU, it's illegal to sell cars that don't have back camera, not beeping if seatbelt not fastened, and not beeping if speed limit is exceeded.

Same in US: your car has externalities on others. Even if it was a one seater you'd up everyone else's liability insurance without the chime.

do you have any studies that back that up?

IMO the chime, if anything, decreases safety (it interrupts the driver's attention)

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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This is my biggest bugbear with VW (and related) cars. The "it's below 4ºc" message has the same warning tone as messages about tyre pressures, engine malfunctions, etc.

I'd be more worried that you already know how an engine malfunction alert sounds like!

Oh I'm very familiar, I've not had a good experience with my Skoda Karoq!

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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It's literally illegal. In the EU, it's illegal to sell cars that don't have back camera, not beeping if seatbelt not fastened, and not beeping if speed limit is exceeded.

Our new car beeps constantly for unclear reasons and doesn't explain why. It's not helpful and I'd like it to stop.

My toyota is constantly beeping.

I especially love the collision detection that goes "BIBIBIBIBIBI" and the screen goes red saying "BREAK NOW!". All of this happens regularly when I'm dodging parked cars in small streets at very low speed. The message appears about half a second too late anyway (assuming I have instant reaction time, which I doubt). I'm glad it doesn't break automatically at least.

Also it reads speeds signs but it has no idea when they no longer apply, or doesn't read the new one, or reads a speed sign from an adjacent road, or sometimes just imagines it.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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[citation required] I wonder if there's even any citations that can directly show that a 2024 car is "much" safer than a 2004 car. Without relying on NHTSA's safety rating system, which is an indirect proxy at most (and probably has changed multiple times for "reasons"). And without being confounded by changes in regulatory measures.

Look at the statistics over time? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_...

Could that be from other things though? Better tyres, improved safety-barrier technology, etc.?

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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I'm ready to provide witness statement in front of court about the 8% per day battery loss from sentry mode on a 2022 M3P. It's not even on a busy street, just a shitty software. Not sure why you want to argue about that. Edit: Sorry maybe this sounded a bit too rough, but unplug your car and check it yourself. It's like someone is siphoning gasoline from your vehicle every single day.

Pretty crazy that simple motion detection is taking that much power. It is absolutely shitty software. The battery capacity on that car is incredible, you could put a 4090 in there and run it and it would maybe drain 8% a day, right? So something extremely irresponsible is going on.

A 4090 has TDP of 450W, at which it would drain over 14%.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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If I was to buy a car these days (which I'm not, I don't have nearly enough money for that), I'd want something with as little "computer" in it as possible. Just a box with 4 wheels and an engine, or maybe a battery and a motor, maybe a heater for when it gets a bit cold, and I'll throw a bluetooth speaker in the back seat if I need something to listen to

Hello to my fellow Saab daily drivers silently nodding their heads ;)

From what I remember of Saab, they sound perfect. Just some car that drives well and doesnt need a firmware update

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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To me it seems like a perfectly sound proxy measure of reliability. Why do you believe otherwise?

Have you ever brought a car through the German TÜV?

Our car inspections are handled by German TÜV, and they do not inspect superficially. If, ~14% of a single brand of car which is ridden with LEDs (which should live forever when compared to halogens), advanced drive systems and other stuff are failing, and has to be re-inspected because of they can't meet the standards, that's pretty bad to be honest.

Failing TÜV means your safety critical systems have problems. This means brakes, suspensions, lighting (front and rear), screen wipers, etc.

So they check for pretty basic, but crucial stuff, and they're tested in a pretty detailed way (brake fade, stopping power, etc.). If your car is failing in just two years in these areas, you're not reliable, and your car will not age well, period.

My 25 year old car aces the test all the time, and the biggest complaint I got on my report is "Your wipers leave streaks, LOL!".

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Actually I'm curious if there is some kind of representative poll among Tesla owners about whether their personal ethics still align with the company's (or rather, its owner's) ethics. I mean, this is the guy who as recently as 2017 quit as an advisor for the first Trump administration because of Trump exiting the Paris climate agreement ( https://money.cnn.com/2017/06/01/news/elon-musk-resigns-trum... ). Now I'm not…

A poll suggests among Dutch Tesla owners, 40% feel embarrassed due to Musk's behavior, and 30% consider selling. [0][1] [0]: https://nltimes.nl/2025/01/19/tesla-owners-react-elon-musks-... [1]: https://eenvandaag.avrotros.nl/panels/opiniepanel/alle-uitsl...

> 30% consider selling

So they’d want more Musk fans to buy Teslas and support him, right? If they really felt so strongly about doing something, then they should junk the cars.

Well, I guess I shouldn’t be too hard on them. Musk’s fans are not going to go away, Better to let them keep the Teslas in the family.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Let's remove Musk from the equation, because you can like or (most probably) hate him, but I own a Tesla and I have the opposite experience. Everything worked out of the box. Just one piece of hardware started to fail (the charger plug making some noise) and they changed it in warranty. First: has the author tried a tesla before buying one? I'd never buy a car without trying it. Because comparing it to a Clio just be…

Agreed, the quality of the product should speak for itself. We've got people saying they're unreliable, and we've got people saying they're reliable, and that's true for literally every car manufacturer on the planet, so this doesn't tell us much. Anecdotal stuff aside, there's studies done on these things, thankfully, and Tesla consistently ranks poorly. See for example this one (this is just the first one that popp…

And yet Tesla has industry leading brand loyalty, what do you think is a better predictor, an opaque number computed by Consumer Reports from an unknown formula that combines feedback about non reliability items from users who bother to respond to consumer reports questions, or what 87% of consumers decide after experiencing a Tesla?

https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-leads-with-unmatched-...

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Our new car beeps constantly for unclear reasons and doesn't explain why. It's not helpful and I'd like it to stop.

I've had a new Toyota Corolla over the weekend, and the beeps were driving me nuts. The car reads signs, and beeps everytime it detects a change in speed limit. If you go over the speed limit, even if its 1 km/h the car starts beeping as well. I never drive really fast, when the car says I'm driving 1 KM over the limit my GPS speed usually is 5 below. This makes the signals extra annoying. They should have used beeps…

I noticed this ~5KM/H difference between my GPS and the speedometer of a Toyota 2014 model. I checked and it had to do with liability apparently[1]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CarsAustralia/comments/10d4g0b/spee...

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