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Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by arrosenberg »

oellegaard wrote: post #155
ajdude wrote: post #86

Unfortunately, I will never be able to take advantage of this policy, For the very reason that I have kagi Set as my exclusive search engine on every single device that I own, And there's no way that I could go even a Day, let alone a month, without using this fantastic service. Keep up the good work guys!

I just disabled it today. I have issues searching for local stuff and the other thing - it works poorly with Safari, which is of course not their fault.

FWIW, Kagi makes a browser called Orion that comes with ad blocking packaged in and works exceptionally well.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by paulfharrison »

hnlurker22 wrote: post #156

Only paying customers seem happy about Kagi. I have a strange feeling that a lot of paying customers think Kagi search is "better" just because their brain wants to justify them paying for search. Is there a psychological term for such a syndrome?

It could also be that the aspect of personality that causes people to think Kagi is better also causes those people to buy it.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by olyjohn »

hnlmorg wrote: post #303
wkat4242 wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Europe it's law to make cancellations as easy as signing up. Also using the same methods; so if you can sign up through the web it's not allowed to only offer cancellation by registered mail that must arrive on a full moon only.

It seems insane to me that this isnt the law everywhere.

It is more insane to me that we need a law for this.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by jjice »

gaazoh wrote: post #127

Kagi has popped up a couple of times here recently and looks interesting, but there are a few things keeping me from actually trying it out * I don't trust the product's claims. Sure, privacy and user-centered results sound cool, but literally every company on the internet claims to cater to the user and value their privacy. Kagi can apparently afford to be more specific than usual, but how binding is that? I don't k…

> I don't trust the product's ability to stay around.

I also generally have this mindset, but I've come to think of it through the lens of me getting a better experience for a while and going back down to what I had before vs having never had that better experience.

Before I paid for Kagi I worried "what if it's great and then they go under?" But then I'd just go back to Google and move on, having never had that better search experience. I guess it's kind of like "better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all?" Except that quote seems a bit over dramatic for a search engine...

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by jjice »

The thing I appreciate most about Kagi is their "Quick Answer" option. Suffixing a question mark on a query to give me a high quality, cited RAG (?) AI summary has been such a nice option for quick answers.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by verdverm »

dirkc wrote: post #75

This makes sense, if someone isn't using your service for a month, chances are good that they are going to cancel soon. Maybe they'll keep on paying for another few months, but if they're not using it, they're not getting any value from it. So rather than getting them to cancel, pause their subscription. You don't have to deal with cancellations, and if/when the user does return, you are one step further than you wou…

I'd prefer a pay-as-you-go / per API call / search pricing model... to something that if I use it just once, I pay full price for a month. Same rationale for AI in my IDE, I'm waiting for the pricing models to change

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by loehnsberg »

promiseofbeans wrote: post #308
eitland wrote: post #268

Tangentially related: Whenever I mention Kagi is actually better, someone will claim the opposite. So yesterday someone here said something along the lines of: "With apologies to Bill Buxton every user interface is best at something and worst at something else". So I started looking on Kagi and only found a few results, even if I took parts of it, but I narrowed it down to that the original must have been about "ever…

As I understand it, they aggregate and re-rank results from Google, Bing, Yandex, Brave, (more?), plus their own index.

I don‘t understand why this is bad. Aggregation is a feature because it allows to be no worse than Google, in my experience likely better, and you pay for search with money and not with data.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by hk__2 »

kstrauser wrote: post #398
hk__2 wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And one of the things I really like is the ability to entirely block domains, so for example I never get any Pinterest links cluttering up the results the now Note you can do this on Google using the uBlacklist extension [1]. You can select domains but also use patterns to match specific URLs, like `somedomain.com/someprefix/*`. [1]: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublacklist/pncfbmia...

I prefer configuring that in the service itself so that it works the same on every device where I use it.

Yeah me too, you can export/import blocklists but it’s cumbersome to have to do it every time between devices.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by hk__2 »

Tostino wrote: post #296
hk__2 wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And one of the things I really like is the ability to entirely block domains, so for example I never get any Pinterest links cluttering up the results the now Note you can do this on Google using the uBlacklist extension [1]. You can select domains but also use patterns to match specific URLs, like `somedomain.com/someprefix/*`. [1]: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublacklist/pncfbmia...

Know of any good pre-built blocklist?

No, I’ve built mine from scratch and now I’ve ~450 patterns in it.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by FireBeyond »

ldoughty wrote: post #261
fl0id wrote: post #225

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tbh, these e-mails can also prompt unsubscribing. because then I actually remember that I am still subscribed to that thing.

Yet Kagi is one of the very very few services I've seen that sends a monthly reminder that they are ABOUT to charge you... And you have time to stop it. Typically I only ever see something like that with shipped goods where they might have to deal with a return + cancellation

My favorite is that I've now had multiple services that don't warn you prior to renewing an annual subscription.
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