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More men are addicted to the 'crack cocaine' of the stock market

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I feel like the patterns are more or less the same but the cycles are getting shorter and more pronounced. I met the son of a family friend today, he's 13, already has an opinion about the Israel/Palestine war and spent $500 in roblox so far, they're not wealthy at all. Back in my days I was stuck in the free to play parts of mmorpgs (or had to beg for months for a $5 monthly membership), playing tf2 (free) and had 0…

It's normal for 13 year olds to have strong opinions on such topics - they have plenty of time to refine them or even change their mind. I would be more worried about those who by this age didn't develop any interest in geopolitics - it affects them all the same but they typically don't understand why and pick whatever source tells a more compelling story.

When I was 13 (in the US in the 1970s) none of my classmates or friends ever expressed any interest in geopolitics or international relations.

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Coincidentially today I've just finished reading: "The Little Book on Common Sense Investing" by John Bogle. What's described in the article is exactly the opposite of what people should be doing if interested in serious investing. The book mostly focus on index funds and I highly recommend its reading to anyone who wants to understand and embark on investing seriously. The book is short, extremely easy to read, full…

I’ll add it to my reading list, but I think a lot has changed in the world since this book was written.

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It really is not beyond the reach of a motivated and curious 13 year old to have an informed opinion on (geo)politics.

You don't gave to be particularly motivated to get predigested opinions from influencers. There's too damn many boys and young men echoing how the "Matrix" keeping them down

Sure, but that has little to do with age. To rephrase in terms of an older crowd, there’s too many damn 60+ year old men parroting what they hear on conservative AM talk radio. But there are, nevertheless, 60+ year old men with well informed and well considered opinions.

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I have net managed to beat the market. My estimate is that I've earned approximately $3/hour for the time I've spent doing so. And I was trading in such thinly traded options that it wasn't a matter of "scaling up" - I was literally only able to make money because I was picking up the pennies nobody else cared about. (And/or trading on events that were were rare, obvious, and in an area I understood, which also doesn…

Folks have an unhealthy mentality about beating the market, imo. You don’t need to beat the market if you’re not a fund manager trying to advertise your record. You just need to do well. The market is up 27% YTD. Most global trends suggest, to me, a greater centralization of wealth into the US. Just dumping everything into the SP500 is likely more than great for 99% of people for the near future.

I completely agree. Diversified low cost index funds are amazing. Matching "the market" has been a spectacular risk/return for a long time now.

(And to be clear, I keep approximately all of our investments there. But I have a small puddle I play with to remind myself not to play with real money. :-)

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> There’s obviously a huge difference between a scam and a violent attack. I do not agree with that statement. You're just justifying anti-social behavior.

Would you rather be scammed or stabbed? According to you, you should be indifferent. Personally, I’d prefer to be scammed.

I'd rather be mildly stabbed rather than scammed into an inescapable human trafficking pipeline

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> Because most assets have unlimited upside and unlimited downside. A stock or asset can go ballistic for decades like Apple or Bitcoin, or it can fall to zero value Spot equities and crypto have limited downside. You put in x, most you can lose is x as you observed. Unlimited downside is not a thing outside certain exotic derivatives.

I didn't mean the upside/downside on your investment, but on the asset. Most investment assets except for bullion can fall to 0. They can also increase without an upper limit, like for example Apple stock. The market being "high" or "low" is not remedied by dollar cost averaging.

You’re misusing the term “unlimited downside” which is why you were corrected. Shorting stock is an example of unlimited downside.

What dollar cost averaging does is reduce short time price risk. The result is the long term.

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The real elephant in the room is sports betting. Sports has mainstream appeal and accessibility that stocks will never have (primarily white collar with good jobs).

Every libertarian theory about legalizing gambling has been wrong. Marketing and ease of access increase use. It’s making sports worse and hurting young men.

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> Like with everything else, using your brain cells can quickly make you realize it's a lot more than "gambling" Which sounds similar to how gambling addicts report their thoughts on their addiction - that they are smart enough to learn poker, or they know enough basketball to be able to predict outcomes. Like with everything else, some research and data interpretation shows that with the remarkable exception of two…

>Which sounds similar to how gambling addicts report their thoughts on their addiction - that they are smart enough to learn poker, or they know enough basketball to be able to predict outcomes. Some people are smart enough to learn poker, and build careers out of them. And there are many books on poker. You picked a poor example.

A gambling addict thinks they can learn to play poker because there is a small elite of professional poker players.

Which is exactly what an amateur trader thinks - I will learn to beat the market, because Ray Dalio did.

I used the poker example precisely because of this parallel between a very small elite and an overwhelming majority of loss makers.

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> They expect the problem to worsen. The stock market has climbed 23% this year... The problem will resolve itself if (when?) the market crashes. I remember the run up to the dot-com bust. I was too much of a bumpkin at the time to even know how I would trade stocks — but I listened to an acquaintance go on and on about how much he was making on the market. At the time I guessed that he was much smarter than me — tha…

I see it as that the barrier to entry for making money has never been lower. Right now, it’s one of the best times in history for anyone to start earning, not just the Wall Street elites. Thanks to AI tools and online platforms, it’s easier than ever. Every week, new tools are being launched, some even claiming returns as high as 400%. Take the NexusTrade guy on Reddit as an example. He created his own investment too…

You could also have invested in SMCI at its high of $113. it's now down at $34.
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