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Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Please get off the internet then, destroy your computer and go live on a farm. I don't say this to be an antagonist but it is what you yourself is suggesting others do.

I am working towards that goal, actually. My only reasosn to be on it are economic for now.

That's my point. It feels very hypocritical because you yourself could disconnect today as you suggest in your gospel but you don't.

Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Fast food - like McDonalds - have followed through with this. They now have a single human register and much smaller kitchens, and 1/2 their business is take out. It's not all automation; a lot of it is factory prep and shifting the work on to customers & gig workers.

>It's not all automation Almost none of it is automation. McDonalds invested in a fully automated fry machine but they basically don't get deployed because thanks to COVID "labor shortages", they all figured out a much better strategy: Just have fewer employees and make them do more work. It doesn't matter how much people bitch about wait times and product quality on twitter, they still buy . Americans love to bitch…

They correctly figured out customers could tolerate slower times for fast food because a significant chunk of their orders are delivery and pickup, so having it take 7 minutes instead of 3 won't really be noticed by the consumer.

Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Sounds like the real problem is autocomplete. Do what I do, disable it. I never have autocomplete issues on websites.

Then you'll have to memorize a lot of long numbers.

You know they print them right on the card right? How hard is it to punch in 20 characters and a name and billing address? Talk about first world problems.

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I would love for astroturfing to be illegal and heavily enforced.

Would union supported/enforced comments count as astroturfing as well? I think it’d be interesting to ban pay for picketing & comments, though I’m not sure it’s enforceable.

As an aside, on Reddit a similar thing is disallowed (brigading other subreddits in an organized way)

Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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I've unsubscribed from Amazon Prime and Audible. I don't mind waiting an extra for my stuff to arrive. It's important to support other smaller retailers. Amazon already started with enshittyfying some of their services.

What audible alternative are you using?

Libro.fm is basically bookshop.org but for audiobooks. Supports local bookshops, has roughly the same 1 credit per month price.

There are some audible-only titles, which is frustrating.

Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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> If the world doesn't need a particular task to be done by humans, then the task should be performed by robots. The problem is, our society isn't ready for that shift, not even close. Employment opportunities for the low skilled have all but gone down the drain - there is a reason why Walmart, Amazon and the other usual suspects love to set up shop in devastated communities: they have a captive audience that has no…

Everyone cheering for automation and AI always says "oh we'll just implement UBI" but none of them ever seem to actually be working to help make that happen; I doubt we will get a glimpse of that until things get bad enough for CEO-murder to be a much more common thing.

UBI at this point is entirely a political decision to be made by the legislators. How do you expect others to "actually be working to help make that happen"?

Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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unions and strikes are not illegal. The merits of unions, not always but their goals are, multiple. a/ compensation and working conditions leverage in negotiations b/ structure that can directly address all sort of issues the employer don't care about and isn't obliged to deal with. That it makes your service experience particularly painful is exactly the goal, bad (or better, no) customers experience hurts the emplo…

But it’s also not illegal to get fed up and go above and beyond to automate everyone.

Was responding to the sufferings of travelers who disliked the strikes.

Unions are at war using any effective and legal weapons they can find. The same stands for "the capital".

Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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So you acknowledge that the job should be done but the people doing it deserve to live in squalor even though they work a full time job. Just for corporate profit and your convenience. Just so you know, all things I listed are things most people in Western Europe already have. Including employees of Amazon and McDonald's.

Here's my perspective. Not exactly related, but I hope you understand how I think: If I am a small shipping company, and all I need is someone to wrap boxes and store them, and the load isn't much, then should I be paying them full time for the job? Heck, should I pay them a living wage? No. I pay them the value of the job. Obviously, we need a certain minimum wage because nobody deserves to get scammed and make 10 c…

If they are working for you full time, but you aren't paying them living wage, how exactly are they supposed to make ends meet?

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I’ve found that the rise of Apply Pay as a payment mechanism on random sites has been helpful in getting me off of Amazon. Often it’s just as easy to order something direct if they have Apple Pay (or ShopPay, but I have other issues with them) and the same price as Amazon. Plus discoverability is awful on Amazon anyways. Still don’t get the Whole Foods return ability when not shopping from Amazon, but not punching in…

For me, Amazon cuts delivery times, improves reliability and makes returns 10x easier.

You sure need that ease of return when Amazon repeatedly ships the wrong item again and again.

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$20/hr still isn't much money and you can only survive, note I'm not saying thrive here, on that amount in the poor areas in America. There are very few jobs that actually pay well in America nowadays, and the ones that do tend to be congregated in few geographical areas and require extensive schooling. The vast majority of Americans deserve more money. Also check your priors, there are many musicians that do not com…

> $20/hr still isn't much money and you can only survive, note I'm not saying thrive here, on that amount in the poor areas in America. That's enough to thrive in lots of places in the USA, in some cases. Maybe not the most desirable places, though.

absolutely not, maybe if you're living with parents and not paying for rent or groceries
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