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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Indeed, public speculation is what keeps these cases from getting swept under the rug.

The public forgets pretty quickly - the media has been very quiet about the two Boeing whistleblowers who apparently killed themselves.

And the epstein list.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Please don't post personal attacks here, regardless of how you feel about someone. You may not owe people who you feel are psychopaths better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sam Altman is routinely accused of and criticized for manipulative, exploitative behavior. If you can't let commenters name that as psychopathy, it is you who are using fallacious reasoning. You also did not consider the context of my remark, I specifically wrote without ambiguity, formally: "How about "Person A is an X"." Just because I didn't type in those quotations doesn't mean one can interpret it any which way.…

Besides being glib, insulting, and wildly overstated, "$X is a psychopath" is an internet cliché. If you've read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html, I shouldn't have to explain to you why we don't want that on HN.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Sure seems like this is happening more frequently, eg with the Boeing guy. So it’s reasonable to ask why. If you look at Aaron Schwartz for example you see they don’t have to assassinate you, they just have so many lawyers, making so many threats, with so much money/power behind them, people feel scared and powerless. I don’t think OpenAI called in a hit job, but I think they spent millions of dollars to drive him in…

that's just assassination with extra steps

plausibly deniable extra steps

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Single-purpose accounts aren't allowed on HN, and neither is using the site primarily for political/ideological/national battle. Since this account has been doing those things, I've banned it. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

What does "banned" actually mean in this case? It seems like they were able to post non-flagged, non-dead comments in reply?

I unkilled https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42413279 manually.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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The GP comment seems innocuous to me. Taking the thread on a generic tangent about copyright law, spiced with personal putdowns, is clearly not ok.

My right to flag comments was previously unfairly taken away from me. Maybe if I still had this right, I would've just flagged and moved on, but I didn't have this right. I don't even know why it was taken away.

Your right to flag comments hasn't been taken away from you. (In fact, you flagged a comment 2 hours after you posted this one.)

But even if it had, that doesn't make it ok to break the site guidelines.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Or you could just look at the facts of the case (currently: no foul play suspected). Are the cops in on it? The morgue? The local city? How high does this go? This isn't something which happened in isolation. This isn't "someone died". It's "someone died, and dozens of people are going to sign off that this obviously not a suicide was definitely a suicide". Like, is that possible? Can you fake a suicide and leave no…

Why did you have to make it go in the direction of conspiracy theory? Of course not. An assassination that looks like a suicide but isn’t is extremely possible. You don't have enough details from the article to make a call on this. > You're acting like it's a binary choice of probabilities but it isn't. It is a binary choice because that’s typically how the question is formulated in the process of the scientific meth…

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Well I imagine this is a relatively new phenomena in the USA. Usually I hear about these "coincidences" in foreign countries... but here....? Maybe the older HN generation can shed some insight...

It was common where I live. Since the current government (the last 17 years) it doesn't happen anymore. There is no criticism, and people often go to jail for no apparent reason. By " common " I mean at least one very famous person yearly in a 7 million habitant country. Suicided without antecedents, family either disagreed with the investigation or speak about it.

which country is this? israel?

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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> But it's not clear from the article how critical this guy is in the upcoming lawsuits If he was the key piece to the lawsuit the lawsuit wouldn't really have legs. To get the ball rolling someone like him would have to be critical but after they're able to get the ball rolling and get discovery if after all that all you have is one guy saying there is copyright infringement you've not found anything. And realistica…

each missing piece weakens the case

His testimony via depositions would still be allowed and he wouldn't be able to be crossed. So in theory, wouldn't it benefit the lawsuit?

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Okay, first boeing now openai... Yep, my view of this world being more civilized than portrayed in the movies is disappearing every day. Looks like we're going to start having to take conspiracy movie-like theories seriously now.

There's surveillance camera footage of the vehicle John Barnett was sitting in at the time of his death. The conspiracy theories are not credible.

"heart attack" gun exists, it's not that improbable that similar tactics can be used. Of course you can just play this into him being crushed by the mistake he did (for his own success in the future).

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Sure seems like this is happening more frequently, eg with the Boeing guy. So it’s reasonable to ask why. If you look at Aaron Schwartz for example you see they don’t have to assassinate you, they just have so many lawyers, making so many threats, with so much money/power behind them, people feel scared and powerless. I don’t think OpenAI called in a hit job, but I think they spent millions of dollars to drive him in…

that's just assassination with extra steps

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