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Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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OT: I’m not entirely sure why, but "agentic" sets my teeth on edge. I don't mind the concept, but the word itself has that hollow, buzzwordy flavor I associate with overblown LinkedIn jargon, particularly as it is not actually in the dictionary...unlike perfectly serviceable entries such as "versatile", "multifaceted" or "autonomous"

Take good care of your teeth, my friend. It's a new era in agentic factuality.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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THIS is the thing I'm excited for with AI. I'm someone that becomes about 5x more productive when I have a person watching or just checking in on me (even if they're just hovering there). Having AI to basically be that "parent" to kick me into gear would be so helpful. 90% of the time my problems are because I need someone to help keep the gears turning for me, but there isn't always someone available. This has the p…

Just as an FYI: I recently learned (here on HN) that this is called Body Doubling[0] there's some services around (there's at least one by someone that hangs around here) that can do this too. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_doubling

Do they support WFH setups?

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Just as an FYI: I recently learned (here on HN) that this is called Body Doubling[0] there's some services around (there's at least one by someone that hangs around here) that can do this too. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_doubling

Do they support WFH setups?

The parent might be referring to us: https://workmode.net/. Most of our clients work from home. Do you have a specific concern about body doubling and working from home?

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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> products that don't grow. I think we all acknowledge this. The question is seldom "why" they kill it (I'd argue ultimately it doesn't matter), it's about how fast and what they offer as a migration path for those who boarded the train. That also means the minute Gemini stops looking like a growing product it's gone from this world, where Microsoft backed alternatives have a fighting chance to get some leeway to rec…

Yeah, MS Azure DevOps is still alive, though stagnant. I thought everyone would be moved to GitHub in few years after MS acquired GitHub. Yet here we are, 6 years later.

I can guarantee that DevOps will still be around and functional in 2030. It won't have new features but it will still be supported.

Microsoft bought FoxBase in 1992. FoxPro never took the world by storm but it had a dedicated group of devs and ISVs who used it and it solved their needs. The last version was released in 2004, long after Microsoft had released.Net and C# and SQL Server. Microsoft officially ended support for it in 2015.

Google? If the product doesn't become an instant #1 or #2 in its market and doesn't directly contribute to their bottom line in a way which can be itemised in their earnings call, it's gone in less than 3 years guaranteed.

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> they also have an incredibly bad track record of supporting their products Incredibly bad track record of supporting products that don't grow . I'm not saying this to defend Google, I'm still (perhaps unreasonably) angry because of Reader, it's just that there is a pattern and AI isn't likely to fit that for a long while.

Please can we just get over Reader. Please. Yes it was devastating for RSS, but the debacle took place eleven years ago. Enough.

No we can't cause it was absolutely a turning point in Google's trajectory.

After Reader, it was Currents, Google TV, Picasa, Google Now, Spaces, Chromecast Audio,Inbox, GCM, Nest, Fusion Tables, Google Cloud Print, Google Play Music, Google Bookmarks, Chrome Apps, G Suite....

Reader keeps coming up because after Reader, Google's motto turned into "Do be Evil"

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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THIS is the thing I'm excited for with AI. I'm someone that becomes about 5x more productive when I have a person watching or just checking in on me (even if they're just hovering there). Having AI to basically be that "parent" to kick me into gear would be so helpful. 90% of the time my problems are because I need someone to help keep the gears turning for me, but there isn't always someone available. This has the p…

Interesting! I see how this could work for inattentive procrastinators. By "inattentive procrastinators", I mean people who are easily distracted and forget that they need to work on their tasks. Once reminded, they return to their tasks without much fuss. However, I doubt it would work for hedonistic procrastinators. When body doubling, hedonistic procrastinators rely on social pressure to be productive. Using AI li…

You don't necessarily need to believe the AI is a human for it to tickle the ingrained social instincts you're looking for. For example, I'm quite aware that AI's are just tools, and yet I still feel a strong need to be "polite" in my requests to ChatGPT. "Please do ...." or "Can you...?" and even "Thanks, that worked! Now can you..." etc.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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And AWS + Azure are 4.5x the size of GCP. AWS alone is 2.6x the size of GCP. So your point?

Not sure why you're comparing both AWS + Azure to GCP - did they become one company ? My point is GCP is growing very fast, AWS while being much bigger has slowed considerably to around 20% growth rate while GCP is at 35%. It has very good growth and many people seem to be adequately happy with it, in contrast to what many commenters here seem to think.

AWS is 2.5x the size of gcp. In fact AWS is growing faster than GCP based off of gross revenue added over last 12 months.

I used both azure and AWS to show that GCP has lost significant markshare because of its deprecation policy. Enterprises don’t trust GCP won’t deprecate their services.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Interesting! I see how this could work for inattentive procrastinators. By "inattentive procrastinators", I mean people who are easily distracted and forget that they need to work on their tasks. Once reminded, they return to their tasks without much fuss. However, I doubt it would work for hedonistic procrastinators. When body doubling, hedonistic procrastinators rely on social pressure to be productive. Using AI li…

You don't necessarily need to believe the AI is a human for it to tickle the ingrained social instincts you're looking for. For example, I'm quite aware that AI's are just tools, and yet I still feel a strong need to be "polite" in my requests to ChatGPT. "Please do ...." or "Can you...?" and even "Thanks, that worked! Now can you..." etc.

I dont feel this at all. I treat chatgpt like an investment banking intern.
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