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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by stevage »

baby wrote: post #71
Twirrim wrote: post #12

I know it's a prototype, but yikes those are large and goofy looking. Reminds me of the old 80's NHS glasses in the UK (which you could get for free if you couldn't afford otherwise). Or for those of you old enough, Brains from the old Supermarionation versions of the Thunderbird show ( https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article8451975.ec... )

Wanna see the first prototypes for mobile phones? And even then it's really good compared to a Quest, but def. not good enough if you're going to wear this on the daily

The benefit of a mobile phone was extremely obvious to everyone as soon as you said what it was.

I've been reading about AR for years and I still have no idea how, if at all, I would use it. Never really come across a use case that's compelling for me. Getting WhatsApp messages without taking my phone out of my pocket feels like the opposite to the direction I'd like to move in.

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Post by signal11 »

benreesman wrote: post #358

I've long been a huge skeptic of the whole Metaverse project/undertaking, I think I've called it a smoking crater where ten billion dollars used to be. But this is really interesting: it sounds like the display works, and it sounds like the puck is workable, and it sounds like both can squeak above the line in terms of battery life. If those things are true I may turn out to have been completely wrong. I don't know t…

> I think I've called it a smoking crater where ten billion dollars used to be.

It’s less of a waste of money if it paints Facebook as a technology leader and distracts lawmakers, and helps give the company mind space among the tech press.

In fact the metaverse may have started out as DC strategy [1].

Facebook Inc. is old and boring, catering to a predominantly older cohort and becoming “Big Social” by buying up anything promising (Instagram, WhatsApp). But Meta Inc. is a scrappy pioneer at the forefront of American tech that’s creating the future™. Be harsh with them at your peril, is the implicit message to lawmakers.

If you look at it as a PR / Corporate defense strategy, a billion is actually cheap.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/09/24/faceboo...

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #25

> While Orion won’t make its way into the hands of consumers harumph. This tech is cool, but there's a worrying trend of important tech companies creating larger than life PR announcements without anything I can actually get my hands/eyes on

Well, the announcement is necessary because Snap has a similar product that's out now, and ostensibly Google is making one also. Apple probably will be 2-3 years behind perfecting their version, as is their MO.

It also invigorates current devs for Quest by showing them what their apps could run on in the future

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by stevage »

camus_absurd wrote: post #62
momoschili wrote: post #21

A few major elements to this that I'm really interested in: 1. wireless data transfer and how that affects the performance 2. EMG: this is alright, but seems to be a bit overhyped 3. MicroLED: clearly the best display technology available, but how close is color display to consumer price levels? 4. silicon carbide: great material, interested in seeing it at scale 5. magnesium frame: super awesome to see this being pu…

For #4, I don’t think scaling should be a major issue as the tooling industry has been manufacturing at scale for decades now. The only real difference is the customer

The Verge article said silicon carbide was too expensive and they were moving away from it.

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Post by vertical91 »

It's crazy how Apple is behind in this space. Smart AR glasses were conceptualized as early as the 1990s in movies like Mission Impossible (1996) and we had consumer-ready device (Google Glass) roughly 11 years ago. Yet, Apple wants to push out a "fresh" phone every year with hogwash new features.

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Post by KerrAvon »

vertical91 wrote: post #445

It's crazy how Apple is behind in this space. Smart AR glasses were conceptualized as early as the 1990s in movies like Mission Impossible (1996) and we had consumer-ready device (Google Glass) roughly 11 years ago. Yet, Apple wants to push out a "fresh" phone every year with hogwash new features.

Expensive, ugly vaporware with poor specs from Facebook makes you think Apple is behind in this space?

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Post by calf »

auggierose wrote: post #361

> We don’t think people should have to make the choice between a world of information at your fingertips and being present in the physical world around you. What a weird mission statement.

It's a Koolaid type of statement that says Meta wants to sell you an information overload filter that they get to control, not the customer.

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

xpl wrote: post #148
ang_cire wrote: post #85

This is cool from a technical standpoint, but ultimately just feels like another gimmick. This feels like it's doing stuff that I could do faster or better (and definitely, more safely) on a computer or phone. I don't personally see the appeal of hands-free as a paradigm in most cases. Do we really want people talking on and looking at Zoom as they walk around the office? Or as they drive? Or as they are out shopping…

> Can you imagine how goofy you'd look sitting at a coffee shop and just sort of staring into the middle distance and talking, as you take a Zoom call? Honestly, people used to say the same thing about Bluetooth hands-free devices years ago, and now no one even bats an eye when someone talks using AirPods.

I mean, I certainly do. People with airpids look incredibly goofy.

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Post by zmmmmm »

sharkweek wrote: post #392
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #293

I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…

Nick Clegg (public affairs guy at FB) is currently lobbying to get VR headsets on schoolchildren. I can't think of anything I want less than my kids wearing those things while in class all day. https://nickclegg.medium.com/how-the-metaverse-can-transform...

heh ... i'm frustrated that the schools my kids are going to aren't embracing this tech. the applications in education are absolutely mind blowing.

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Post by zmmmmm »

auggierose wrote: post #361

> We don’t think people should have to make the choice between a world of information at your fingertips and being present in the physical world around you. What a weird mission statement.

They are definitely walking a fine line to portraying a dystopia. I wonder how aware of that they are internally.
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