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Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Apple could end up funding the EU's Russia defence from just the fines alone. ;)

Unfortunately fines are a net zero from the EU's perspective, as fines are simply deducted from the EU contributions paid by its members.

EU contributions to what, Apple?

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Whats most annoying is that Apple pioneered the idea of PWAs going all the way back to Steve Jobs. I have said many times Tim Cook is a good COO but Apple needs a visionary who wants to innovate. It feels like Apples innovations are not where they could be. They are making some amazing things here and there, but I can only imagine they would be far more innovative with a different CEO.

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Apple isn’t considering that they are the baddies? I suggest strong regulation of the complete BigIT and two chairs for public observers at minimum. In addition they are not allowed to enter any new market. Why? Because it worked well with AT&T . Results: * UNIX * C * Open-Source * Public Documentation Sounds good? Until the Reagan administration appeared, allowed them to split up (Baby Bells), the UNIX-Wars followed…

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So how is it possible, that I can run unsigned, unnotarized applications on MacOS?

That is one of the reasons why businesses must have security software monitoring your entire system on macOS, but not on iOS. On Windows, people literally just give everything they install complete root access to their entire system when installing applications, might as well bring that to iOS too, right? You’re not making the point you think you’re making. There’s a lot more danger using macOS/Windows than iOS, and…

> On Windows, people literally just give everything they install complete root access to their entire system when installing applications, might as well bring that to iOS too, right?

UAC prompts get in the way, and if the user account isn't an admin the app can't do anything.

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I like this story. Nay, I love this story. But it is a just-so story. None of the regulators had a clue it would go this way, it is a lot of magical historical accidents, and there is no reason to think interference guarantees positive outcomes. For example, HN seems to bristle at the subject of AI regulation as a game incumbents play that hews towards regulatory capture. Apple is clearly in the wrong here but how to…

in this case the market is already captured anyway, though. Even microsoft couldn't pierce it.

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Any particular reason you are picking on US companies? or big companies? Most, if not all, monopolies are sustained by government via laws, regulations, and so on. So let's get specific, which monopolies do you think should be forced to split up and we can test that theory and see if we can identify what government actions sustain the monopoly.

The three big app stores are based on the west coast US.

Apple, Google, and... ?

If you include Steam, we need to include XBox, Nintendo, and Playstation too; I would expect they're not too different in size.

But yes, the status quo needs shaking up unless we really want to live in digital neofeudalism.

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People like to crap on EU for decel and regulation. But it's needed in some aspects.

What's "decel"?

"decelerationist" apparently.

> “Decel” is a derogatory slang word used by the e/acc community.

From https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/dont-be-a-decel

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As a user, I cannot recommend iPhone to my older relatives if there is a way to run arbitrary code beyond Safari’s JS sandbox. Simple as that.

It is a nuanced question with a computer[0], but for a phone (increasingly used for more important transactions and sensitive private data by people more naive when it comes to security) it is simply a no-brainer.

Unless cyber crime is prosecuted as robustly as robberies, I want this kind of jail to constrain the device. Believe it or not, it is a feature.

[0] I do run arbitrary code on my MBP, but then I am a dev who writes code. And, being that, I recently re-enabled the warning for running non-app-store apps on my Mac—I consider myself proficient enough, but perhaps that is exactly why I prefer having to go through an extra warning dialog if it helps reduce the attack surface.

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Apple isn’t considering that they are the baddies? I suggest strong regulation of the complete BigIT and two chairs for public observers at minimum. In addition they are not allowed to enter any new market. Why? Because it worked well with AT&T . Results: * UNIX * C * Open-Source * Public Documentation Sounds good? Until the Reagan administration appeared, allowed them to split up (Baby Bells), the UNIX-Wars followed…

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