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Cellular outage in U.S. hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users
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#442Something I'm not seeing discussion on: What is/were the cascading effects of this, particularly for drivers? Many people in buildings were unaffected, as they could fallback to wifi. But I imagine this had a pretty broad impact to drivers. Just a few things I can think of: - Packages delayed (UPS, FedEx, Amazon, truck drivers, etc.) for drivers that relied on their phone's mapping apps to get them to their deliverie…
> Traffic worsened because drivers weren't able to optimize their routes This might explain a huge random traffic jam I hit in the middle of my town this morning. I had no idea any kind of an outage was happening because I've intentionally scaled back my dependence on my phone. I always used to automatically pull up Google Maps to navigate no matter how short the trip. At some point I realized I was losing my ability…
> Maybe it was this cascading effect of too many people conditioned into being told what to do by their phones while their phones couldn't tell them to take the other route
There is a lot of people who couldn't navigate to a neighboring street without a direct directions even if their life depended on it.
Add to that what the most people doesn't have a slightest idea where are they, where are the cardinal directions and what they need to get from point A to point B.
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#443Re: Cellular outage in U.S. hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users
#444To everyone trying to speculate on the root cause, I haven't seen enough information in any of the comments to really draw any conclusions. Having worked on several nationwide cellular issues in Canada when I worked in telecom, we saw nationwide impacts based on any number of causes. - A new route injected in the network caused the routing engines on a type of cellular specific equipment to crash nationwide. This too…
The speculation is fascinating. For most people, their guess is a reflection of themselves. Is there a term for that? This is a gross generalization, but I've seen... - Science people guessing solar flares - My "right-wing friend" guessed international hackers - I, myself, guessed it was a botched software release - Someone in this post commented their military friend says get gas And yet, like everyone else, I genui…
It looks like you were right:
>A temporary network disruption that affected AT&T customers in the U.S. Thursday was caused by a software update, the company said.
>AT&T told ABC News in a statement ABC News that the outage was not a cyberattack but caused by "the application and execution of an incorrect process used as we were expanding our network."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/att-outage-impacting-us-customers-...
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#445Did anyone have a phone fail during this outage? My Pixel 4XL was working at 2am as I placed it on the charger (even though it had about 80%). Noticed zero bars. Shrugged and went to sleep. Woke up at 9am and the phone is totally non operational. Yes I know sometimes phones just break, but less rarely while not moving, not wet, not dropped, or due to a charging issue. What a coincidence.
Android has historically done poorly in areas with no signal with regards to battery life. Did it come back after charging it?
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#446Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish we had metrics for utility companies. In my midwestern experience, things have gotten worse. I don’t remember any outages as a kid in the 90s that were over 24 hours aside from the major blackout in the early 2000s. As an adult I’ve experienced several outages greater than 24 hours in both summer and winter months. It’d be nice to be able to measure this.
I would caution comparing today against one's childhood memories. Children have few responsibilities and are shielded by their caretakers. They simply do not notice much of the things that happen.
Right? As a kid we might not have questioned that sudden trip to Grandma's for the day.
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#447Earlier quoted context omitted.
there is also a big of fear, that if you go to an alternate route it may also be congested, and it will all have been for nothing. radio is pretty good with traffic news, but how many people would even think of local radio?
I think many many people would check local radio, not everyone lives on their phone or in a tech bubble.
Many people don't have a way of listening to local radio outside of their car. Loads of people don't even have a way to watch OTA TV.
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#448>A temporary network disruption that affected AT&T customers in the U.S. Thursday was caused by a software update, the company said.
>AT&T told ABC News in a statement ABC News that the outage was not a cyberattack but caused by "the application and execution of an incorrect process used as we were expanding our network."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/att-outage-impacting-us-customers-...
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#449Earlier quoted context omitted.
agreed. On Google Maps app, there is a feature called "offline maps" which allows a user to select a rectangle on a the map and download all the street info inside it. A whole US state can fit in less than a few hundred megabytes. I have all the city I live in downloaded so I can go on walks without needed to use my data plan.
Not as useful as back when google maps required a 5GB download IIRC
Downloaded a whole island yesterday. Was 40mb. That's a lot better now, has less resolutions packed in tho.
Re: Cellular outage in U.S. hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users
#450No info in NANOG yet but expect some in this thread in the coming hours: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2024-February/2250...
> Word around the campfire is that it’s a Cisco issue.
https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2024-February/2250...