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Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by alkonaut »

dylan604 wrote: post #154
alkonaut wrote: post #106

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Final aircraft assigned to the flight can be changed until the last minute. The info is most useful when booking. Presumably people might switch if the price/schedule is reasonably close while very few would turn away at the gate if they discover a max (I sure wouldn’t and I belong to the tiny minority that even think about aircraft models ever). So the info is most useful when booking. Flying an airline that doesn’t…

If they change the model of the aircraft at the last second, they should allow a seat change to no longer sit next to the door

You can board with some crutches and they probably shift you away from the emergency exit seat right away.

They tend to be sold at a premium these days due to slightly more legroom.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ssijak wrote: post #425
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #313

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I find the A380 accidents quite fascinating. If there is a plane I want to lose an engine on it’s one with four on it for sure. :)

A380 can loose only one engine and fly, same as smaller planes, they can loose an engine and land.

> A380 can loose only one engine and fly

Modern airliners can glide tens miles with complete loss of power. (It's why they have RATs [1].)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbine

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

StreetChief wrote: post #407
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #314

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> "Only two people would have died, so it's really not that bad," is wild. Straw man. Nobody says even a single death isn't tragic. What I'm saying is it doesn't overwhelm trillions of miles of safe flight. Not flying a 737 Max 8, only to go onto a Spirit Aerosystems-assembled Airbus, doensn't make sense. (Note: not implicating Spirit. Just saying that the window of culpabilitiy extends more in their direction than i…

I guess if you think all miles of flight are the same, then sure, the 737 max 8 and 9 have trillion of miles.

> if you think all miles of flight are the same

OP said air safety is going down broadly [1]. So yes, considering all air transport miles is valid given the context.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38929237

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by daedalus_j »

bitcharmer wrote: post #383
daedalus_j wrote: post #208

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There's a big difference between an unsafe airframe and pilot error/poor-training though. For example the recent crash in Japan. Airbus isn't getting railed for that one. I know several 737 pilots on US flag carriers. Even at the time they were saying that neither crash would be possible for their fleet as they had done simulator training of exactly those sorts of scenarios. From wikipedia: While defending the pilots…

> For example the recent crash in Japan. Airbus isn't getting railed for that. What a bizarre comment to make. Why on earth would Airbus get railed for what happened in Japan?

My point is that Boeing will take the flak for what is arguably a pilot error situation with the MAX crashes.

We should be very careful to distinguish between actual airframe issues and issues that are related to politics and poor decision making or training.

There's nothing we know of that is fundamentally unsound about the 737 MAX airframe, there are mistakes that have been made in very small subset of the airframes/flights operating, and yet everyone is running around like you're taking your life into your hands every time one flies over your head.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by mrWiz »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #418
andy_ppp wrote: post #382

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And driving home is still more dangerous than getting on the flight.

Per mile traveled but not per trip.

I'm not sure how that applies here - the trip home from a travel destination will be a similar distance whether driven or flown.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by jjav »

netsharc wrote: post #430
jjav wrote: post #362

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The planes only start transmitting when they are ready to go (not sure if they do it after pulling out of the gate or when doors close or thereabouts). So by the time you see the flight data you're most likely boarded already. So yes, too late.

I don't think this is true, in any case you can extrapolate, e.g. if you're leaving from gate 34, see which flight of this airline is arriving at gate 34 just before, then you can check that flight's details, including plane model, on the tracking websites

My kid is a huge fan of flightradar so we spend way too much time watching it. I don't know the exact timing, but it is a consistent behavior that planes pop onto flightradar only a little bit before pulling out of the gate. But I'm not sure if there's a standardized point in the sequence when they turn it on or it's up to each pilot.

But you're right, watching the incoming plane to that gate would be a good way to know earlier!

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by pknomad »

datadeft wrote: post #434
dawnerd wrote: post #415

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What choice do they have? If they switch to Airbus they’re going to be waiting until at least 2030. They could buy used but that’s goes against why airlines are ordering new planes to begin with. And that’s not factoring in the maintenance cost in switching manufacturers. Thats why you’ll see airlines be a Boeing or Airbus only fleet.

Do you think it is better to buy a plane that potentially going to be grounded than wait?

I'm not saying I support how the 737 MAX program was executed but at least you have a plane that is potentially flying versus not having one at all.

Re: Is my plane a 737 MAX?

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Post by pc86 »

datadeft wrote: post #434
dawnerd wrote: post #415

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What choice do they have? If they switch to Airbus they’re going to be waiting until at least 2030. They could buy used but that’s goes against why airlines are ordering new planes to begin with. And that’s not factoring in the maintenance cost in switching manufacturers. Thats why you’ll see airlines be a Boeing or Airbus only fleet.

Do you think it is better to buy a plane that potentially going to be grounded than wait?

Yes, because you get revenue from a plane that is "potentially" going to be grounded, and you don't get anything from sitting around.
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