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Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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People in another spot were complaining that the auto lock maximum is apparently 5 minutes. It seems odd that this number isn't customizable.

Seems odd overall, yeah. But this is Apple we're talking about, they generally don't offer customisation. And when they do, they usually just offer a few options instead of freeform.

How you can't just disable the camera on the lock screen without disabling the entire camera app (and no way to disable the flashlight functionality, as far as I have been able to tell) is beyond me. It's not even about customization, these are things people can do without your lock code! Imagine going to show someone a recent photo and something you didn't take pops up instead.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Automatically switches to last words recorder mode.

Reminds me of the skydiver who dropped his camera and you can watch it spin and eventually land in a pigpond where a pig investigates it. It’s on YouTube.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QrxPuk0JefA, if anything else is curious.

Have to admit, amazing plot and production, all in a minute!

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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This isn’t surprising - there was a wired story about phones surviving from planes back in 2011 (1) The gist is that it’s a light object and due to that + broad shape, its terminal velocity is not very high. Coupled that with the mass and there’s not a lot of force on landing. Of course the phone itself is fragile so it might not take a lot of force to break. Still, as long as it lands on something soft it might be o…

Then why does my phone break when I drop it?

It didn't have time to turn around and stretch in order to slow itself down.

Or maybe that's cats. Cats reputedly have a higher chance to survive a long drop than a short one because the long one gives them time to catch themselves and maybe slow down.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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Seems odd overall, yeah. But this is Apple we're talking about, they generally don't offer customisation. And when they do, they usually just offer a few options instead of freeform.

How you can't just disable the camera on the lock screen without disabling the entire camera app (and no way to disable the flashlight functionality, as far as I have been able to tell) is beyond me. It's not even about customization, these are things people can do without your lock code! Imagine going to show someone a recent photo and something you didn't take pops up instead.

In general I agree with you, but

> Imagine going to show someone a recent photo and something you didn't take pops up instead.

this is not true. The camera app opened from the lock screen just shows recent pictures taken with the camera opened from the lock screen. So if you lock the phone, then start the camera from the lock screen, there is no existing photos there.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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The phone was in airplane mode, so not actually trackable.

Airplane mode allows bluetooth, so it is trackable through Find My.

Bluetooth is nearfield. Increases the radius of finding it, but still makes it a needle-in-a-haystack, IMO.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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A lot of things went into my head: * The iPhone owner didn't put a password/passcode? * Damn, he paid Alaska $70 for baggage fee? * Now we know an iPhone will survive falling from the sky

Lufthansa wanted $450,- for an oversized bag (300cm sides, 30kg) on a 3h flight. Awful company.

Fuck Lufthansa. I bought a round trip, but bought a different flight out for circumstances not pertinent to the story. Anyways, on the return trip, they wouldn't let me check-in, for a flight leaving in 2 hours, with a valid ticket through them, because I didn't take the departure flight out.

I STILL don't understand the angle there, but I learned you can buy a plane ticket to anywhere in the world (except Australia and NZ), day-of; for about $2500.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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If it wasn't fragile - people would not buy cases and protective glass for their phone. Old plastic phones were indestructible. I still have somewhere nokia 3310. It just refuses to die, unlike many smartphones I had.

> If it wasn't fragile - people would not buy cases and protective glass for their phone. Well for my money I think they're mostly nonsense. I never use them and despite living in my pockets for years, my phone aren't scratched up. Cases are annoying and unwieldy, making it more likely I would drop my phone, and screen protectors make the screen look worse - which I think is what they're supposed to prevent? I often…

They're very obviously not nonsense, look at all the shattered screens on phones around out.

And there's absolutely 0 chance your screen doesn't have a ton of microscratches.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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post #445

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How you can't just disable the camera on the lock screen without disabling the entire camera app (and no way to disable the flashlight functionality, as far as I have been able to tell) is beyond me. It's not even about customization, these are things people can do without your lock code! Imagine going to show someone a recent photo and something you didn't take pops up instead.

In general I agree with you, but > Imagine going to show someone a recent photo and something you didn't take pops up instead. this is not true. The camera app opened from the lock screen just shows recent pictures taken with the camera opened from the lock screen. So if you lock the phone, then start the camera from the lock screen, there is no existing photos there.

You're describing a different scenario. I'm talking about someone grabbing a locked phone left on a table, taking an unwanted picture (say of their genitals, just to make it problematic), and then you find out when you go to show someone your recents.

One should not be able to modify the contents of a locked device but you can add photos on an iPhone. The recourse is to disable the Camera app via Screen Time and use a 3rd party camera app for when your phone is unlocked and you actually want to take photos. Unfortunately the flashlight functionality doesn't have such a workaround, but that one is more just a minor battery annoyance.

Re: iPhone that fell from hole in Alaska 737 MAX flight is found, still open to Mail

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I assume it partly depends on how much lateral velocity the phone had. If it landed at a good angle with respect to the train and "slid" away most of it's energy, then perhaps nothing unusual would be noticed. Anyways is it the obvious thing to lock a phone merely because of a large jolt?

Boeing doesn’t make trains. This phone fell out of the sky.

Yes, and planes stay in the sky because they travel and hundreds of miles per hour of relative ground speed. So, you would expect things that fall out of them to have a lateral velocity component in addition to their vertical one.
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