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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by hatsix »

iterati wrote: post #300
elif wrote: post #249

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Weird. Is your wife's phone nearby by chance? The only time this happens to me it's because we are both walking to the car together and her phone unlocks it before mine does.

Even if she were near, I'd expect it to select her profile and let me select mine. Instead it deletes my profile entirely and I need to reconfigure my seat, mirrors, and any drive settings that are now at default.

Odd. We haven't had any issues with our profiles, worked perfectly for past 18 months.

I was sure you were going to complain about the windshield wipers "automatic" mode

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by brandonagr2 »

ryukoposting wrote: post #236
bayindirh wrote: post #110

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I think Tesla embodies the SV mindset very well, even demonstrates it in a tangible form. They move fast and break things.

Do they move fast, though? The Model S is ancient history now, and the Model X is aging too. Both models are in need of a successor.

Did you not know that the Model S and X had new body, interior, mechanicals just a couple years ago? Making it the quickest production car ever made. How is that ancient history?

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Post by rvba »

darthrupert wrote: post #192
angulardragon03 wrote: post #162

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Probably this, yeah. Lease cars as part of your work comp are relatively common in the tech sector here.

Which is nice for us middle earners since we get those almost new models a lot cheaper.

This system is overall so nice for everyone involved.

Middle earners drive new cars. Those cars are regularly i spected and repaired. Then sold. Obviously your milage might vary (some sales representatives drive a lot every day), but often those cars are nice.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by brandonagr2 »

theturtletalks wrote: post #329
vertnerd wrote: post #309

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We've been using touchscreens daily for about 15 years now, and I am still enraged by the fundamental stupidity of a UI that puts your fingers on top of the thing you're trying to see, with gestures required that you can only guess at.

Just saw that they put the right and left indicator on the Cybertruck on top of each other on the left side of the steering wheel. Yeah that some really innovative UI. Watch MKBHD’s video on the Cybertruck and you’ll see that they’ve ran out of innovation and are just changing things for the sake of changing them. No rear view camera, driving console on top, no latch for glove compartment, no door handles, etc. I’m a…

Have you driven a car without stalks? A yoke with turn signal buttons is better than stalks, I don't have to move my hand to signal

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by zie »

cedilla wrote: post #395
dmix wrote: post #373

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HN is suddenly anti-innovation You must be a 100yr old conglomerate, those companies never do shady things or have failures in quality control.

A weird accusation. It's not the 100 year old multinationals at the bottom of the reliability indexes. Tesla is also no longer innovating, they are far behind in almost every way. They lost their lead in battery tech, marketing and assistance features.

HUH?

They are still innovating. For all of its other drama the Cybertruck has some amazing innovations. It's now a 48V system, uses an ethernet bus, uses un-treated stainless steel, etc.

Again, I'm not remotely claiming the Cybertruck is a great vehicle or that it won't have any problems, but they definitely are still innovating on vehicles.

Marketing? Tesla never really had a marketing department and now doesn't even have a PR department, last I heard.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by rsynnott »

bmitc wrote: post #39

Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

I mean, they could presumably afford to hire people who know how to do this. It is not a secret; for the right money you can get the process expertise.

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Post by Closi »

harimau777 wrote: post #422
Closi wrote: post #404

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I guarantee they wouldn’t shut down the line while they wait for a fix for within-tolerance panel gap improvements - they would work on designing a fix that would be implementable on the line while continuing manufacture. Designing, Testing and Commissioning an improvement will often take many months. The zero defect thing is fixing issues early rather than fixing them at the end - not shutting down the whole line if…

As I understand it, the parent post is talking about defects that cause actual issues. If that's the case, then it sounds to me like the gaps aren't within tolerance.

The parent post is talking about fit and finish.

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Post by Closi »

baldeagle wrote: post #412
Closi wrote: post #397

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Tesla produced the same number of cars in 2022 as they did in all years combined from 2012-2020. If you think it's easy to just stand up that level of production capacity, and that they are actually they are just ignoring simple production problems, then you are underestimating the challenge. Things like panel gaps are not necessarily easy fixes - i.e. what if you know the solution to a 1mm improvement, but can't eas…

There is a concept in manufacturing called the andon cord (a button / pull that activates a claxon and stops the line). Once the line stops, everyone swarms the problem and works on a fix. Toyota in the 80s pioneered its use and then beat the big 3 at manufacturing quality.

They aren't pulling the andon cord because the panel gap's are within tolerance but could be improved.

Parent post is talking about general fit and finish (i.e. tolerances being wide), try being a production line operative and pulling the andon because you think panel gaps could be decreased.

You are supposed to be pulling it if you notice the wiring loom is broken or something like that, not just fit and finish.

Besides, people are talking in this thread like lean / six sigma are new concepts that won't be already be fully embedded in the existing Tesla plants - this stuff is basic manufacturing which will already be fully embedded, but is just misunderstood by most people.

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Post by _Algernon_ »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #390
_Algernon_ wrote: post #167

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Even if we take for granted that Tesla is a net positive, Tesla isn't SV. For every Tesla there is a Facebook that is a net negative. Just ask Myanmar.

> Just ask Myanmar Do you mean the military dictatorship? I’m not sure if they are reliable sources. But yes, Myanmar blames lots of their ethnic violence problems on Facebook, it couldn’t be bad governance at all right?

As with most things it's probably a combination of factors, one of which is Facebook essentially monopolising internet access in the country while stoking the fire.
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