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Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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FYI: Apple’s pinch to zoom lets you rotate and drag not just zoom. This kind of subtle differences matter quite a bit from a UI perspective. You could have a punch to zoom system where a pinching motion always resulted in fixed changes to zoom levels. You could describe both implementations as “pint to zoom” but one is a lot more user friendly than the other.

I can't rotate web pages in Safari, there's plenty of situations in Apple's first party apps in iOS where pinch to zoom is purely a zoom thing. In any case, the rotation thing is also just pretty rudimentary trigonometry/linear algebra.

Safari lets you drag and zoom so it’s still more than just a zoom function.

Also, Boxed already replied by complaining about rotation in the Map app imagine the hate if Safari did let you rotate. Removing features is just as critical for UI design as adding them.

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Didn't the Microsoft surface table project that predated apple multitouch already show rotation?

The original Surface was unveiled a few months (May 30, 2007) after the iPhone (January 9, 2007). Not sure who implemented the idea first in the lab, but probably neither of them.

Yea, Apple got most of this by buying a company that started working on this stuff in 1999. You can argue about the patents, but in this case it was beneficial for a small innovative company.

Also, the original idea for pinch zooming dates back to 1985, but I have no idea what that UI was actually like.

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Why is it scummy? Hiring people to produce goods or services and compensating them based on the value of their knowledge and abilities is sort of the entire value pitch of capitalism, and it's unlikely anyone would have moved over to Apple if the compensation wasn't more worthwhile to them.

It's like meeting a friend's girlfriend and then asking her out later behind your back.

> It's like meeting a friend's girlfriend and then asking her out later behind your back.

Trying to understand this sentence. 1. Who is asking who out behind whose back now? 2. I gather you think it's not her choice to go out or not if she wants to, since she is your property now?

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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FYI: Apple’s pinch to zoom lets you rotate and drag not just zoom. This kind of subtle differences matter quite a bit from a UI perspective. You could have a punch to zoom system where a pinching motion always resulted in fixed changes to zoom levels. You could describe both implementations as “pint to zoom” but one is a lot more user friendly than the other.

I wish Apple didn't do the rotate thing though. I never ever want to rotate the map, and I do it by mistake a lot. It's infuriating and useless.

I wish the rubber band effect could be disabled. When scrolling, I always have to wait a second for the bouncing effect to stop before I can tap on things. It happens in every app.

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The point is not that employees left. The point is that Apple had Masimo describe their tech, the issues and methods they developed to solve them, and Apple walked away to rebuild Masimo's solution. They succeeded, but unfortunately for them the methods were already patented IP of Masimo, that company which explained this whole field to Apple in first place. The fact that Apple hired Masimo staff to do so is just the…

It should be noted that we're taking Masimo at their word here -- scummy as described, yes, but for all we know things may have actually gone another way: they may have tried to hold Apple over a barrel, may not have actually revealed all that much, etc.

Not really.

All of this is confirmed:

- It's agreed by both sides that meetings took place in 2013 and subsequently a confidentiality agreement was made.

- Within the same year Apple hired Masimo's Chief Medical Officer and EVP for Medical Affairs, along with additional staff.

- They developed and integrated the IP of Masimo into a commercial product.

- A judge ruled that Apple infringed patents of Masimo [1].

There's not so much room for things to have gone another way. They were aware of the company and its tech, they met with them, they hired the people away from this company, they built the tech, ultimately violating their IP.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-judge-rules-apple-watches-i...

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He didn't specify general vs. special but there were lots of developments leading to special relativity too: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_special_relativit...

Those developments had no relationship whatsoever with the Ricci calculus that had been published a few years before, which was my point. When the General Relativity was developed in 1917, the Ricci calculus was no longer recent, but it was 17 years old. Therefore what the OP supposed, that there was an immediate causal relationship between these lines of work, is not true.

I wasn't saying Ricci calculus was related to special relativity discovery. OP didn't say whether talking about special or general relativity.

17 years old I think is quite recent given the gap between special and general (would you say no immediate connection between them because of the length of that gap?), and there were presumably other pieces involved.

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Or leasing a new Mercedes every few months so that you never have to have a license plate and register your car like the rest of us plebians...and can illegally park in handicapped parking spaces because cops can't issue a ticket to a vehicle with no plate.

Why on earth can you drive without a registration of the vehicle. This simply indicates the law is broken. Still scummy behaviour but fixing the law so you have to get a plate before driving would solve this (like it's in many places of the world).

This wasn't a registration issue. In CA, new car dealers immediately register cars upon sale. The issue is that license plates formerly weren't issued until sometime later, so it was legal to drive a new car for up to 6 months with no plates. That law was fixed as of 2019. Now dealers have to install temporary license plates.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/news-and-media/dmv-reminds-mot...

Steve Jobs was notorious for trading in his car every 6 months so that he could park in handicapped spaces without being ticketed.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/steve-jobs-car-apple-ceo-l...

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What they do is uphold the U.S. global monopoly on high tech products.

>U.S. global monopoly on high tech products Right, using US companies such as Samsung, TSMC, Sony, MediaTek...

Apple, Intel, Microsoft, Facebook, Google …

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The researcher individuals will be paid their salary and their jobs' existence depends solely on ability of the shareholders to protect their investment.

Exactly, and that's my point! The individual who does the invention gets a normal salary which they would've gotten anywhere doing anything (or, at best, a slightly higher salary than others doing similar work), and the people who reap the reward are the shareholders and executives.

But if none of the workers produce innovative work that the firm can patent, then the firm might fail and

> the individual who does the invention gets a normal salary which they would've gotten anywhere doing anything

may no longer be true.

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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> their pockets aren't infinitely deep Interesting take

I'm sure you're familiar with the meaning of "infinite", as I'm sure you are familiar with the difference between "market capitalization" and "cash on hand". Assuming those two statements to be true, what's your point? EDIT: and I see parent pulled a ninja edit. Stay classy.

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