The most reliable cars come from the end of a production series right before a facelift. Yeah, the car won’t look as new but a lot of the engineering challenges of the new design don’t get worked out until later
Who makes the most reliable new cars?
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#442We're going to see reliability drop as Toyota and others downsize and turbocharge their engines.
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#443Earlier quoted context omitted.
FWIW, the computers don’t tend to break. The things that do break are essentially the same as they were 20 years ago. The bells and whistles are mostly for creatures comfort. The mechanical components haven’t changed much. The only thing that I couldn’t fix on my own in my 2020 vs my 2006 was re-alignment of lane keep system after replacing the windshield.
The chips themselves don’t tend break, but wires and connectors and sensors all do tend to break, and they are effectively part of the computer system. Today, it’s practically moot where you draw the line. Something mechanical on my CRV broke somewhere, and the computer didn’t know what it was, and so the dealer didn’t know what it was, and the computer tended to shut down over unknown problems, and it eventually cau…
It’s actually the capacitors that fail first because they have a liquid electrolyte
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#444I've had a regrettably excellent experience with my 2015 Mazda. Easily the most reliable machine I've owned. Which is unfortunate because it's a soulless, joyless shitbox and I hate it. It just starts every single time, but it's not fun to drive. I see dozens of the exact same model on the road every day and they're all boring. The interior is fine, the handling is pretty good, the power is fine, fuel economy is fine…
huh, my 2014 Mazda 3 (manual 6 speed) I find quite fun to drive. It feels light, it's not some powerhouse but its immensely spritely. It feels like, given the constraints, the engineers were still trying to make something that feels good. Very different from Corollas or Civics that I've owned.
I actually bought the 2014 model rather than 2015 because I wanted the last year made in Japan, though I don't know how much of a difference this makes.
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#445My 3rd Gen Toyota 4Runner is old enough to drink and outside of routine maintenance requires almost no thought. "It's time to get a new car" given that car safety has drastically improved and I have two younger kids in that thing a few times a week but I'm honestly having a really hard time giving it up, something so reliable and plainly functional. New cars with all their computers and smart technology only look lik…
Yes, I keep on thinking that a premium market will develop for Toyota and Honda cars from roughly ~2006-2010. Those cars were the height of internal combustion technology without all of the electronics.
> Toyota … ~2006-2010
The 5th Gen Camry was one of the first, if not the first, cars with drive-by-wire throttle.
Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?
#446I've had a regrettably excellent experience with my 2015 Mazda. Easily the most reliable machine I've owned. Which is unfortunate because it's a soulless, joyless shitbox and I hate it. It just starts every single time, but it's not fun to drive. I see dozens of the exact same model on the road every day and they're all boring. The interior is fine, the handling is pretty good, the power is fine, fuel economy is fine…
That is exactly why I bought a Mazda earlier this year. I wanted to upgrade to a larger car (since 2010 I have driven a 2 door Toyota Yaris it was getting to hard to manage without extra doors) wanted something plain, reliable that I could count on to "just work", I was torn between Toyota Corolla and Mazda 3. What ultimately titled the decision was the waiting period. Here in Australia the Toyota had an 8 month wait and the Mazda 3 had 10 week wait.
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#447who makes the most reliable new cars..and why is it Toyota
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#448I have had 5 Toyota trucks and only replace them because I get antsy every few years for the newest thing. Never had a single problem with one and my current 19 taco at 70k miles just feels like a break in period. Each time the trade is is quite close to what I paid for it. Have been looking at getting a late 80's 4runner as a fun second rig and don't anticipate any issues with that either.
I should add that I live in an area where ~40% of my driving is not on pavement, I am in 4wd at least half of my driving time and I have a second set of wheels w studs that I run from Nov to early Apr.
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#449My 3rd Gen Toyota 4Runner is old enough to drink and outside of routine maintenance requires almost no thought. "It's time to get a new car" given that car safety has drastically improved and I have two younger kids in that thing a few times a week but I'm honestly having a really hard time giving it up, something so reliable and plainly functional. New cars with all their computers and smart technology only look lik…
I have a 2012 Honda Fit that they will need to pry off my cold dead hands. It's my favorite car of all time, it's everything that I want from a car. Except possibly a larger gas tank.
Fellow 2012 Fit owner. I bought it after reviewing carcomplaints.com and finding it was a very reliable car by their metrics, all the top problems are related to accessories.
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#450Interesting to see Lexus, Toyota and Honda, Acura.
Are they meaningfully different or just different badges of the same company?