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We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by faeriechangling »

Satam wrote: post #215

Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

They made GPT4 and you think they clearly have little critical thinking? That’s some big talk you’re talking.

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Post by upupupandaway »

0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #123
r721 wrote: post #29

Quote tweets by main participants: https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727206691262099616 (+ follow-up https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727207458324848883 ) https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1727206609477411261 https://twitter.com/miramurati/status/1727206862150672843 UPD https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1727208843137179915 https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1727210329560756598 https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/17272076…

Emmett https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1727210329560756598

I am really surprised by people thinking this guy did anything to get sama back. He was probably not even in the room.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by returnInfinity »

highwaylights wrote: post #200
r721 wrote: post #29

Quote tweets by main participants: https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727206691262099616 (+ follow-up https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727207458324848883 ) https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1727206609477411261 https://twitter.com/miramurati/status/1727206862150672843 UPD https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1727208843137179915 https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1727210329560756598 https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/17272076…

That’s certainly some very.. deliberate.. board picks. Summers, too. Welp.

It seems US Attorneys were calling the Open AI board.

It helps having somebody with government ties on board now.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by lwhi »

politelemon wrote: post #382
Satam wrote: post #215

Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

> there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. That they reached a different conclusion than the outcome you wished for does not indicate a lack of critical thinking skills. They have a different set of information than you do, and reached a different conclusion.

I think it's fair to call this reactionary; Sam Altman has played the part of 'ping-pong ball' exceptionally well these past few days.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by raverbashing »

flylib wrote: post #111

"A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations says that the sole job of this initial board is to vet and appoint a new formal board of up to 9 people that will reset the governance of OpenAl. Microsoft will likely have a seat on that expanded board, as will Altman himself." https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/172721237871736880...

Only goes to show how the original board played itself

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by Solvency »

krisoft wrote: post #355
shubhamjain wrote: post #162

At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…

> Honestly, I myself can't take the threat seriously. But, I do want to understand it more deeply than before. I very much recommend reading the book “Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies” from Nick Bostrom. It is a seminal work which provides a great introduction into these ideas and concepts. I found myself in the same boat as you do. I was seeing otherwise inteligent and rational people worry about this “…

Who needs a book to understand the crazy overwhelming scale at which AI can dictate even online news/truth/discourse/misinformation/propaganda. And that's just barely the beginning.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by zucker42 »

tunesmith wrote: post #137

Weird... Ilya decides one way then changes his mind. Helen and Tasha vote one way and had the votes to prevent any changes, but then for some reason agreed to leave the board. Adam votes one way then changes his mind. So many mysteries.

Ilya and Adam switched because they lost, and their goal wasn't to nuke OpenAI, simply to remove Sam. Helen and Tasha had the votes to prevent Sam Altman from returning as CEO, but not the votes to prevent the employees from fleeing to Microsoft, which Helen and Tasha see as the worst possible outcome.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by jjallen »

Satam wrote: post #215

Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

I think what this saga has shown is that no one controls OpenAI definitively. Is Microsoft did this wouldn’t have happened in the first place don’t you think?

And if Sam controlled it it also wouldn’t have.

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Post by sashank_1509 »

Satam wrote: post #215

Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

> Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there’s clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI’s employees either.

Very harsh words for some of the highest paid smartest people on the planet. The employees built GPT-4 the most advanced AI on the planet, what did you build? Do you still claim they’re more deficient in critical thinking compared to you.

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