Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

Post by _mh56 » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 8:59 AM UTC

nopromisessir wrote: post #389

_mh56 wrote: post #141

[This is not in response to the satya's tweet but the general articles or opinions in social media.] Please keep in mind that the articles you read are PR pieces, last few being from Sam's Camp. msft/sequioa/khosla has no power to remove the board or alter their actions. There is no gain for board by reinstating Sam and resigning themselves. swaying employees who have 900k$ comp is pretty hard. and not giving money t…

It was a negotiation. Did they have power... Ofc they did. Otherwise... Why were they negotiating? Its not about who had more power. They just couldn't find enough common ground. Now Satya bagged talent. They don't have to rewrite the whole codebase due to IP msft has already secured. I think those talks were real. You don't build something that long and then want to walk away unless huge differences came up. That's…

Post by pixelesque » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 8:59 AM UTC

CSMastermind wrote: post #405

pixelesque wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anders Hejlsberg didn't move to MS until 1996...

Sorry I should have phrased that as starting in 1990... In 1990 they poached Brad Silverberg who then spent the next 7 years poaching all of Borland's top talent in the most prominent example of a competitive 'brain drain' strategy that I'm aware of. https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Borland-Says-Microso...

Post by bottlepalm » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 9:00 AM UTC

peanuty1 wrote: post #419

nopromisessir wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a negotiation. Did they have power... Ofc they did. Otherwise... Why were they negotiating? Its not about who had more power. They just couldn't find enough common ground. Now Satya bagged talent. They don't have to rewrite the whole codebase due to IP msft has already secured. I think those talks were real. You don't build something that long and then want to walk away unless huge differences came up. That's…

Will be interesting to see how many OpenAI employees leave OpenAI to work at Microsoft.

Post by thom » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 9:00 AM UTC

altacc wrote: post #386

9dev wrote: post #288

I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever…

I had hoped nobody read cyberpunk books and thought that was a description of utopia but consistently we see billionaires trying to act out the sci-fi novels from their youth or impose dystopian world views from Ayn Rand.

Post by omarfarooq » Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 9:00 AM UTC

gexla wrote: post #316

mighmi wrote: post #247

What is Sam's actual value re: AI and not just as a CEO/salesman-evangelist to get funding, which Microsoft doesn't need? Is he particularly apt at leading/managing research teams? OpenAI's slow productization doesn't imply he's a product/idea guy a la Jobs.

At the least, probably a good PR move for MS. It's a good move to counter whatever weight would be going against the MS stock price given they made a huge investment into OpenAI.