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Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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Altman was the one who stood to benefit financially from OpenAI selling out. The rest of the board do not have equity in the company. If anything we'll see a reversal of the whole "Open"(to paying customers)AI

He didn't have equity in OpenAI either, he seemed to be running it for fun. Of course, he can get cash payments.

Someone had mentioned in the other thread - he had equity via some yc investment somehow.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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I just read it as illiterate and am amazed someone that deliberately writes like that was chairman of the board.

This is honestly par for the course for anyone who didn't grow up a digital native and is a career businessman who didn't spend it hand-composing messages. I wouldn't read too much into it. Direct emails from executives that aren't filtered by their assistants all look like this.

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Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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I think you're likely vastly overestimating the amount of people in the general public who have any idea who Sam is at all.

Just look at how this news is doing on reddit (a service i conflate a little more with the general public than hacker news which learns towards silicon valley technology) and you can easily see the truth of your statement.

Interestingly parts of this comment section are behaving in Reddit-y ways, posting board members' Linkedins and questioning their credentials, as if their jobs are to just rubber stamp the CEO's calls.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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You can opt out of training and keep your history turned on in the privacy center. You fill out a form and indicate your country of residence.

Which privacy center? I only have settings. And in settings there is the sub-category Data controls where I disable "Chat history & training".

It was previously a Google form without any confirmation. As of late October, they moved it to this privacy center that they keep conveniently well hidden.

This page provides confirmation that your request is processed: https://privacy.openai.com/policies

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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Greg is the one who announced GPT-4. Sam enabled Greg and vice-versa. The next AI winter may have just begun...

Yea cause Steve Jobs dying stopped apple from becoming a juggernaut. People need to stop idolizing the fact that one or two people are "indispensable". Humanity moves forward eventually, even if Einstein wasn't born, someone would have figured out general relativity.

It's also quite silly that society often credits one guy at the top who supposedly has "incredible vision" and yet would likely fail at explaining even the most basic technical details. And if such a person must be credited, why not the CTO, chief engineers, or principal scientists, who are at least closer to what actually drive the technical innovations than the CEO?

In reality, it's actually the 1000s of actual engineers that deserve most of the credit, and yet are never mentioned. Society never learns about the one engineer (or team) that solves a problem that others have been stuck on for some time. The aggregate contributions of such innovators are a far more significant driving force behind progress.

Why do we never hear of the many? It's probably because it's just easier to focus on a single personality who can be marketed as an "unconventional genius" or some such nonsense.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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Maybe something to do with this? https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...

If this is true, which it very well could be, it's clearly not ok/right. However, this was known for some time. She was tweeting about this in 2021, and this was discussed again in October of this year.

None of that makes sense as to why the board would randomly fire him. I don't think it's this.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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Ehh the whole “I don’t have equity” thing was a bit strange to me.

what was strange about it? seemed pretty straight forward to me

>what was strange about it?

There's 8 billion people on the planet nowadays, of those, about 7.9 billion would not lift a finger if there's no material benefit to them. Hence why it's strange.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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I’m not saying there is lack of truth. I’m saying that’s not the real reason. It could be there’s a scandal to be found, but my guess is the hostility from OpenAI is just preemptive. There’s really no nice way to tell someone to fuck off from the biggest thing. Ever.

John, I don't think you understand how corporate law departments work. It's not like a romantic or friend breakup where someone says a mean remark about the other to underline that it's over; there's a big legal risk to the corporate entity from carelessly damaging someone's reputation like that, so it's smarter to just keep the personality/vision disagreements private and limit public statements to platitudes.

None of these people seem to be typical corporate board members, except maybe Altman.
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